You mean.....you actually believe nerfs happen because of what you ask for here? Lmao.... Bungie relies upon data. Period. Everything you listed here as Exhibit A. Exhibit B - Nobody saw the Quicksilver Storm nerf coming. The list goes on & on. If, on the odd chance a nerf happens to coincide with a complaint here......thats all it is - a coincidence. Think about.it. You've got 12 up votes on a message board packed to the gills with complaint - prone individuals. This.....in the vast sea of what is the player base = .000000025 % +/- of the base. Perspective. Ask for a shader or something else QOL life related.....and your wish might be granted. Fact is all your crowd ever did to influence game mechanics change was to quit PvP..... THANK YOU 1,000,000 X over for that too !!!!!! Couldnt have done it without you. Sincerely. Appreciate it !!!!!!

Yeah, I've always been advocate for more nerfs than buffs But some of these nerfs were genuinely uncalled for and straight up weird, I don't understand

Bro when has anything ever been nerfed because of what players wanted PvE wise? Let them balance their game stop being children. Rivers of Blood in Elden Ring completely cooked Malenia and no one wanted it nerfed but the devs have their own ideas in mind of how it should function going forward. Just let devs do their job man god dayum

[quote]Deterministic Chaos having the debuffs swapped, do you know how many people say this is the worst exotic LMG? Striga, it already got a massive poison damage nerf, it sure as hell didn't need a frequency nerf as well. Effectively forcing people to use Necrotic to make full use, assuming the nerf doesn't mess with their synergy. DMT, if I read that right, it's getting a small ease of use and minor ROF buff in exchange for losing a lot of damage and some accuracy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but CS grants 40% damage, right? I hope I'm misunderstanding the patch because that buff being nerfed from 40-15% is not worth it. Lament, +7% damage, but -20% on its perk and healing? This weapon probably only sees 90% of its usage against Crota, and that's because those people don't have a god roll Guillotine or Bequest. Explosive damage nerfs on weapons like Sunshot? I may only be speaking for myself, idk, but bad sights, misleading recoil, and clunky model aside, I cannot see how this make sense unless you're going to buff it because let's be real here, Explosive Payload that highlights targets the gun's recoil is blocking the view of as the intrinsic is worthless.[/quote] Deterministic Chaos is still gonna be trash. However, this change is good because volatile is a better machine gun perk to have uptime for than weaken. Striga is getting a minor nerf, the kill cooldown will probably not stack with necro grips. DMT loses some bonus damage but is getting to share in the all around scout buff. I assume therefore, same TTK. Lament is the one thing that I’m peeved on. I’m alright with the health reduction but damage was unnecessary. This sword was niche as it is. Explosive damage weapons needed a nerf. They completely dominate ad clear, and make encounters trivial.

Just wait until next week. I bet there’s tons of exotic armor and ability nerfs coming

Deterministic is a buff to damage with the swap. The reason why is because weaken has a long enough duration to renew it before it runs out while volatile only last until you trigger the explosion which happens right away with sustained fire.