The good news is they're planning on replacing countdown with collision (currently in labs) I agree, I dislike countdown a lot. I gave it a chance, hoping I'd get used to it and like it, but pretty much what op says, it feels pretty swayed. The first team to attack feels like it has the upper hand bc I find it's much easier to win than defense. If you start out the game up by 2, your morale is up, team feels coordinated, etc. Also agree the spawns feel bad on a lot of maps, and generally this mode plays out way too long. Ironically, survival now feels way too short, but I guess the brightside is it ends more quickly? I feel like they didn't need to shorten survival though I was very skeptical about rift in comp at first, because I disliked it in Iron Banner, but turns out rift felt much better with 3v3 to me, and it felt well paced and actually fun after figuring it out. This is why I had hopes for countdown at the beginning Glad to see posts about this. I wanted to put one up over the weekend after getting a few countdown matches in a row and feeling the rage (but I didn't haha)

It's so annoying when all you need to do is drop a bleak watcher nearby the bomb but kinda out of immediate sight. Team up with 2 other warlocks and you can almost guarantee the W. Use watchers to alarm when defending, and protect when charging. Add witherhoards in that mix and the game mode is a joke.

[quote]Bungie for the love of god sunset Countdown into the vault and never let it back out again. I understand that there may be people who like it but I’m tired of playing it so much. Let me try to explain my pain with the mode. The spawns are all crazy. Most times they suck and sometimes they are really nice but even then I have to admit that it feels a bit advantageous. When it’s bad it’s bad. I spend more time getting to the point than fighting. I know it can be a bit hard to figure out spawn location with all the variables from are you defending or planting. Is the bomb planted; so on and so on. That’s not for me to figure out because I don’t play test and I don’t get paid to do so. I just play. Sorry it sounds so rude but that’s facts. Not every map has to have this mode. Not all maps feel great for countdown. Out of all the maps in rotation for comp I think only 3 have survival as it’s only mode. Wormhaven; that dreaming city map and one other that sloped out my mind. There are I think another 2 that have both but countdown is swayed so heavily it’s usually the game mode I have been playing the most in them. Out of all the maps that have countdown maybe 1 I can say always feels decent to play it but not perfect. Let’s reiterate that last bit. This game mode is swayed way too heavily. Honestly Bungie; if I wanted to play a game where I plant bombs I would just play Counter Strike. In all seriousness; I commend you for trying something new but it’s not working out. Not this version of the mode. It’s definitely not as bad as its first version but it still feels like it missed the mark. Look let’s just start with toning down how much we have to play this game mode. Please I beg you. I wonder what other people think of the mode.[/quote] I agree w you.. Countdown is one of the worst modes in pvp. I just hate it. If I'm going to the game and clicking on crucible, I'm expecting to play a survival game and not be put into a coj down match. Is like. I'm being forced to play some STUPID GAME MODE that I hate. Stop ruining crucible pls

The only downsides of the game mode is the spawns and some of the maps don’t suit the game mode imo, aside from that you just need to play as a team to win.

i hate countdown. After years off of comp i came back and its in there and man i noticed that man i lose most of those. I never like plant the bomb type modes in COD either. It's as bad as rift in comp. And i thought rift was a good mode just not for comp or iron banner or whatever they stuck it in.

Oh okay , we will find countdown middle finger… I mean ground

Also: “Your opponent has match point. Defend the two charges [that are at opposite ends of the map]!” How is that fair? The odds of losing the round in that scenario are way higher than if, for example, you have to set the charges or only defend one charge. But it’s completely random and depending on how the game before that round went.

It sucks so much,the spawns are bugged and they’re terrible even when they’re not. The mode is just straight up unfun.