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2/12/2020 8:24:51 AM
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SR mindbenders combo may be more toxic than fusions
I've ran into so many teams running straight SR Mindbenders and its too much. Does anybody feel this way?
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13 Replies[quote]I've ran into so many teams running straight SR Mindbenders and its too much. Does anybody feel this way?[/quote] You wanted fusions nerfed, even though they are the best counter to shotgun aping in the game. Of course if anyone has looked at the usage numbers this season they would know SR/Mindbenders is by far the most used loadout and the META.
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[quote]I've ran into so many teams running straight SR Mindbenders and its too much. Does anybody feel this way?[/quote] How is a weapon toxic? Seriously.
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Don't worry buddy, once trials comes out and every one whines about it, they will nerf it. Then they will nerf the next thing every one cries about, and so on,so on, and so on.
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Dust Rock Blues, Retold Tale and Mindbender's Ambition are currently the best shotguns for PvP because of their consistency. Pellet spread is RNG but these seem to have either less trouble with that or a tighter spread. I'm not surprised that more and more players use Spare Rations. It has a snappy recoil and high AA. If other handcannons felt as good more players would use them.
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No you are just crying over what kills you
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Edited by MightyJandal: 2/14/2020 4:58:03 PMIt’s only prevalent cos alot of players don’t feel like running Bygones all the time. Pull out the good pulse on SR or NF is the usual remedy. And throw on that BUP fusion for good measure if your not running warlock HHSN.
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41 RepliesLet’s put it this way, the crucible is oversaturated with SR and MB, but it isn’t imbalanced because of it. Neither SR nor MB are stronger than what they should be. In fact, hand cannons - in general - are weaker than they should be, as the most recent range nerf was much too heavy handed than was necessary. Shotguns overall are inconsistent. The randomized pellet spread and varying kill ranges have made the weapon type almost a complete gamble with each pull of the trigger. Again, the two weapons are overly popularized, and that’s largely due to the lack of proper competition. Why is SR the only 150 rpm hc that can roll randomly? Furthermore, why do 140 and 110 rpm hcs require the same amount of precision shots for a kill? What then is the point of using anything other than a 150, and anything other than SR? It’s almost the same story for MB: The most viable archetype and the most gratifying to “farm,” in that it provides the best perks for the weapon type, and the most “consistent” way to grind for it.
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17 RepliesEdited by blade329: 2/12/2020 10:56:38 PMLOL. I don't get why players that feel this way, even play this game. Who goes into a loot based shooter to bash good weapons and get angry over players that use them? It's hilarious. It's like going into Chick-fil-A and demanding they serve hamburgers.
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Spam rations has been braindead and known for a while. Why people rush to get one. It literally has no skill in landing shots . Mindbenders is just a usual max range precision shotgun , but can roll quickdraw , so it's technically better than dust rock. I want one for collection that's good but I won't subject myself to farming that dogshit strike with 11+ immunity phases on the boss. The worst strike in d1 or d2 history by far .
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Made one rage quit with Le Monarque, felt like a proud Titan with his Box Of Edible Crayons
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6 RepliesMy Last Word/Gunnora’s Axe welcomes these players.
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3 Replies[quote]I've ran into so many teams running straight SR Mindbenders and its too much. Does anybody feel this way?[/quote] No.
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3 Replies“May” be? No dude, it IS more toxic. Go look up the numbers. Shotguns account for 14% of all kills where fusions account for 3-4%. The problem is definitely not fusions here.
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Ah yes, the easy mode gun with unlimited aim assist, it proves that once again, destiny players need their hand held In pvp.
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16 RepliesSpare rations is the same as midnight coup in stat department.. people dont whine about that gun..
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I have a feeling that once all of the fusion rifle nerf herders get their way, that's all you will see
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2 RepliesI started practicing with fusions, mainly erentil so I could learn to beat them, and the conclusion I came to is there pretty good and they have insane moments sometimes, but they are also very over rated and inconsistent. Once you get the hang of them it's not that hard to avoid dieing to them. I think nerfing them is not really necessary. Maybe a cap at 30m for high impact, that's it. The thing they do well is crush newbs, that's what's causing the complaints.
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2 RepliesIt's far simpler to play around shotguns than it is to play around Backup Plan Erentil.
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3 RepliesThorn/ MB is just as good. Truth is it doesn’t matter. If it wasn’t this combo it would be something else. DRB/NF, Chaperone/NF, Mida/Last Hope. Point is it’s never going to stop. We will always find the best loadouts/combos and abuse the hell out of them. It’s been going on for 5 years now. And it’s not stopping anytime soon. Just roll with the Flow or go play something else.
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Not really .... don’t think fusions are broken either
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5 RepliesTotally agree! Especially true in Elim and Comp. Mindbenders and Spare Rations have everything covered from medium to short range so well that there’s no other weapon classes to play as well. I don’t understand why they haven’t changed the meta or buffed other weapons to have the same aim assist and ttk as hand canon/shotty combo. I don’t play meta because I don’t want to play the same weapons everyone else is so I lose a lot in comp. Even Lunas beats out my bygones in medium range gunfights every time. They need to buff autos and pulses to be equal to hand canons because it’s really frustrating and really boring seeing the same exact load outs and very single match.
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Those are the players that want high impact fusions nerfed to the ground lol [spoiler]spam rations and crutchbender’s ambition[/spoiler]
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Shotguns are the biggest crutch of the game Trash Apes will Defend shotguns till they die. They will complain about all its counters. But when you say take the ammo away from Fusions its reeeeeee imma 0.8kd who needs their shotguns ohk crutch nerf Erentil let me keep clutching reeeee your a Erentil Crutcher reeeeee.
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Mindbenders has an issue where it OHKs even on non-headshot ranged hits. I'll keep saying it- shotguns(besides slug rounds) need their range reigned in just like fusions. But people who use these guns primarily will always say no to nerfing their babies. With the range both weapon types have, no one has any need of trying any other type of variety and it's truly annoying to see PvP in this state.
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4 RepliesEdited by TheArtist: 2/12/2020 10:15:42 PMNo. This is why PVE players are just DREADING the return of Trials. Everyone and their brother is going to be demanding whatever weapon frustrates them, or counters their personal play style needs to be nerfed.
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1 ReplySide arms wreck Spare Rations
