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1/7/2020 5:04:55 PM
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I see the youtube "Creators" are circling the wagons around SBMM...
Clearly they lack the balls to complain about stuff on their own, so it's not surprising they all come out with hate videos for SBMM in the same week. This is completely coordinated. I'm sorry if the top 1% of destiny players have to play people in the top 10%, but if people wanted CBMM they would play Classic Mix, but they don't. The avoid it like the plague.
The data is clear to see for Bungie and people avoid CBMM because they don't like getting farmed by the like of the whiners on youtube.
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It's True Skill Base Matchmaking. Why do people leave out "TRUE"?
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None of the cry babies like SBMM, it's pretty clear. People like Destiny Fun Police, Azteccross, etc they just whine all day.
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4 RepliesActually you guys are the minority the average player just doesn’t give a cramp in all honesty you all sound like whiners That includes the YouTube
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1 ReplyTheirs no sbmm it's a forced 50/50 win ratio...
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[quote]Clearly they lack the balls to complain about stuff on their own, so it's not surprising they all come out with hate videos for SBMM in the same week. This is completely coordinated. I'm sorry if the top 1% of destiny players have to play people in the top 10%, but if people wanted CBMM they would play Classic Mix, but they don't. The avoid it like the plague. The data is clear to see for Bungie and people avoid CBMM because they don't like getting farmed by the like of the whiners on youtube.[/quote] SBMM juat means you wait longer in orbit to get farmed by laggers. That 0.8kd of yours is not going to do well in any lobby
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Its great. Maybe developers will finally remove sbmm from qp and just have a separate ranked mode for sweats (and a temporary training wheels mode for new players).
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3 Replies1. Remove SBMM 2. Make 1 "Quickplay"-style playlist that matches only on connection 3. Fix the Crucible to make it more fun and increase the population 4. Make Comp matter more and exist as a ranked/arena mode playlist Noobs stand a better chance of running into other noobs, without being granted imbalanced protection from players who have worked hard to make themselves better at the game, good players don't have to sweat as much and can use more fun loadouts, and the most intense players have a ranked mode that matters. Done
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1 ReplyThey only cry about SBMM because there is a 0.03 second delay in hit registration. Meanwhile we had the same problem without SBMM.
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4 RepliesFun fact: wagon circles were used to create a unified defensive position from attacking hostiles. Which is the opposite of what the streamers are doing. They're attacking sbmm, you're actually the one trying to circle the wagons around it defending it.
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1 Reply1. We’re in a lull so putting out negative, critical content is an easy way to get views. 2. Angry people go online wanting to vent their rage and get validation for their discontent. Happy are quietly content. They don’t go online to scream, “Great job, BUNGIE!!!” They just show up to play. 3. Most of these content creators make their money by looking like dominate players or giving live commentary so having to play people their own skill level -blam!-s with their business model. Which is why kids need to stop listening to these guys when they talk about what is “best for the game”. Be a the vast majority of them only advocate for what is best for them and their income. And if it breaks the game for you? Too bad.
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5 RepliesEdited by Erijian: 1/8/2020 8:47:11 PM"The data is clear" Yeah, it's clear that Crucible has been on the decline ever since Shadowkeep came out. There's no way that could be the fault of SBMM though, right? [spoiler]Lack of rewards doesn't help either.[/spoiler]
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7 RepliesIt's hilarious that when CBMM is the default, all the top tier players tell everyone else to deal with getting farmed & get better. Then when SBMM forces them to play people on their level, they complain about it just like the rest of us.
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1 ReplyEdited by an Ape with a d2 addiction: 1/8/2020 2:02:43 PMA trend does not automatically signal malicious coordinated group effort. Another possibility is that there're real underlying reasons for many to think like mindedly about a subject. And the subject then surfacing into discussion triggering a feedback cycle. Many complaints about SBMM aren't about folks playing other folks within the same skill brackets. This is indeed a non-issue. Many complaints are about the issues minority brackets experience due to too tight SB boundaries in the MM that disregard CB boundaries too much. Namely long queue times and p2p latency issues. These are real issues. This could be tweaked by implementing a proper SCBMM hybrid. Loosen SB boundaries a little. Tighten CB boundaries a little. Alleviate the minority bracket issues without enabling the traditional heavy-CBMM stomps.
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You know it, I know it, they know it, & please dear RNGsus let’s hope Bungie knows it. SBMM benefits the majority of players. It needs to stay in all game modes. The sweaties who don’t like playing other sweaties of their caliber should kindly, respectfully, find another game to play.
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1 ReplyYeah only thing is I still get put with bad teammates against stacked teams more than half of my crucible games
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5 RepliesIt’s going back to cbmm. Keep in mind that if this continues and these streamers go to another game, their player base goes with it. Bungie needs them as their media icons, and will not put their population at risk anymore then it is now (as if the steamer leaves, his fans leave as well). This is a losing battle. I don’t see any compromise coming out of this except them getting what they want.
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Cool story
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3 RepliesSBMM sucks.
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1 ReplyEdited by enkiisall: 1/8/2020 1:00:22 AMokay first of all skill based matchmaking is fine within the comp playlist that's where sweats go and you want skill based matchmaking. however why is it in a playlist like classic mix that has almost no reward for playing why in the hell does that playlist have skill based matchmaking? it makes no sense all it does it put pvp bots against other bots so you never get any better and it puts the better players fighting each other making every game a sweat fest it in a way punishes both sides of the pvp playerbase but people don't think about that. and it kind of sucks when good players say hey this is something wrong with the game almost every pvp bot comes out and says shut up you streamer how dare you point out a problem that effects everyone in a bad way. also everytime skillbased matchmaking is enabled in destiny be it destiny 1 or destiny 2 the player base drops by about 30/40 percent. clearly people don't like it granted some do.but it's punishing the good players that play destiny 2 and it keeps bad pvp players been bad because they almost never fight anyone better then them so they stay bad skill based matchmaking needs to go
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4 RepliesPeople would like to play the game for fun and not sweat out lobby after lobby lmao
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7 RepliesClassic mix does not have CBMM. If it did I would not be matching full lobbies of Asians during peak NA hours.
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They were the ones that wanted sbmm in the first place. Lol. Before they complained that the pvp matches were to easy. Now the complain every match is to sweaty and forces them to use meta loadouts all the time.
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1 ReplyEdited by BringGrief: 1/7/2020 11:42:59 PMSomeone said this on a different post but it was the same topic "Bungie is never going to be able to please both sides ( the casuals and the hardcore) some casuals want sbmm , while some of the hardcore players don't want sbmm. Bungie needs to stop trying please everyone and just pick a side" Edit: now obviously this is gonna upset some people but what else can bungie do? The longer they wait to address this the more divided the community is going to get.
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10 RepliesEdited by Maker: 1/7/2020 5:18:43 PMIf all players that hate SBMM play the CBMM mode, then they still end up fighting the top 1%. Almost nobody else plays classic mix which just keeps it the same as SBMM. If you remove SBMM then maybe we'd be able to enjoy the crucible matches when we want to play for fun.
