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10/28/2019 4:51:46 AM
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Matchmade raids are something people who have never truly raided want. Especially in this game as it is more communication heavy than in other games. ( FFXIV is the only one i have experience with outsie of Destiny) Could you imagine doing the riven heart run witthout any communication on the timer? or basically assigning spots anywhere? Yeah you could say " just use a party" but there will be a lot of people in matchmaking who will not join, hell i have seen a few in LFG already. I totally understand why people want it but without any guaranteed way of communicating it wont work ( yeah i know PC has text chat but console doesn't for some reason)
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Edited by RoninPhoenix650: 10/28/2019 6:21:51 AMI have done every raid in D1 every single week, I have also done a good chunk of D2 raids. Matchmaking should exist. Period. You don’t have to use it if you don’t want to. This idea of “it won’t work” is flat out absurd. A group of deaf people were featured for having completed a raid. That’s merely an extreme example, you’re not deaf are you? Only people who don’t actually have raid experience think “you have to communicate”. In all the raids I have ever done it was actually rare for anyone to have to speak. You get to a point where you anticipate the next steps and just do them. You learn timing. Short version, your raid party should be silent for 99% of a raid anyways as long as things are going as they should. The other 1% should be simple sentences. Like “r1” or “arc - void 2 solar”. Also, almost every other major group based game has vote to kick features. If you get someone who refuses to put a mic on, kick him with a 4 vote required feature.
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Edited by Luna's Meow: 10/28/2019 2:26:24 PMMy guess is you have never tried to matchmake a raid before? lemme tell you it is hell. And your example of the deaf people isn't really fair since they were already a co-ordinated group beforehand no a bunch o randoms. While i may not have raided much in D2 you can definitely see i have raided a lot in D1 and FFXIV, links can be given if you don't believe me.
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It is fair. Unless you are trying to say that not knowing someone is worse than being deaf, which is absurd. Also, yes I have “matchmade” a raid before I. The watered down version we got with guided games. Every point I made still stands. Even if I granted you the ridiculous idea that no matchmade group would ever get it done, which is false, you’re still not required to do it. It’s their time not yours.
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The point is since the deaf people were an organised group they could practice all the time they wanted, matchmade groups would be on limited time and most likely would go their seperate ways after it. Now i do think that if they had an in-game LFG that would pretty much solve all of that, not really sure why they don't tbh. Never once did i say "no matchmade group would ever get it done", i'm saying it is very unlikely. Ofcourse if someone spent hours and hours constantly replacing people then yeah they'd probably get it done that way too but the people complaining there are too many mechanics in raids are the same people who would not have time to do such a thing. Point is, Matchmaking is not the solution, in-game LFG is by-and-far a superior solution
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Your illusion of matchmaking in raid will work is amazing. If you want to have mm just use guided games. Mm in raids is a horrible idea. Guided games was the biggest turnoff ever. People not joining the party. Either you lag or they lag. People who think they get carried through it was also a problem. Nobody was researching what the hell they where doing. How is anyone gonna complete a raid when all these factors are a thing
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Literally everything you just spewed was already addressed in my original post. All you did was repeat the same garbage people have been repeating for years, all of which has been disproven over and over and over again. The ACTUAL only reason it doesn’t already exist is to add another superficial layer of difficulty before a raid is even attempted.
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Or you are dillusional and don't have a team to attempt the raid yourself so you try to force people to agree with your spews opinion to then choke it down again
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There is no “or”. Notice how you can’t make even a single valid point? You have said nothing in the last reply that can’t be summarized by “I have nothing intelligent to say”.
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That is not the issue, is it? Or can you only react with emotion. You are not as level headed as most clan founders. In your bio you said people are scared of the truth. Are you one of those people?
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Edited by RoninPhoenix650: 10/28/2019 2:18:33 PMLol. Yet again, you have said nothing of substance. Did you have any actual point or are you just mad that you cannot effectively refute anything I have stated?
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So did you
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That doesn’t even makes sense on a grammatical level.
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Does it matter. That is not the point. Don't throw people of track when you don't like the question. That's rude
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It was neither accurate nor a question. Lmao. Keep trying
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It was neither accurate nor a question.....lmao. Keep trying.
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Edited by TheHowlingWolfZ765: 10/28/2019 3:16:02 PMKeep your. Self proclaimed illusion to yourself then instead of forcing it down into somebodies throat
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It’s not an illusion. It’s verified facts. Undisputed I might add. You have yet to make any actual points against it other than “nuh uh”.
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You didn't make any valid points that make sense. Maybe in your head but that's it. You are like a donkey. In intelligence and reasoning. You just won't listen to the crowd. There are some people who played destiny 1 including me where the whole raid system works because we take the effort to find a team. That you are to lazy to get a team together is nobodies fault. You can just go on lfg and find people. It's so easy even I can do it. Go and try it out for yourself😂
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Lmao. You assume you have done more raids than I have in D1. The likelihood of that is insanely low. If you’re so attached to the log then keep using it. You have yet again not said anything of substance. Every valid point I have made has remained unchanged and unchallenged by you. You would like to pretend you have but all you have really said is “nuh uh” and “shoving it down my throat”. Which is odd how fascinated you are by that phrase. If you can’t handle reality, because that’s what is “shoved down your throat” then the problem is, was, and shall remain you.
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Edited by TheHowlingWolfZ765: 10/28/2019 6:14:32 PMI never said that I did more raids than you in D1. That's what you are saying. Not me. Read better my friend. You will come far in life then
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The irony. Try again. Read what I said slower. Here I’ll just break it down for you, I never said that you said anything. I stated a clear and obvious fact the you made an assumption. Once more for clarity. I did not say that you said something, I said that you DID something.
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And btw the last time you did a raid was a month ago. So it sounds like a problem for you. Not the community
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Btw, that has zero relevance in any way. Keep going through my profile though. It’s good to know you can’t make any intelligent points so you need a crutch in the form of “stats”. Lol.
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You questioned my intelligence. Which had zero relevance to your statement yet you still brought it up. Can you see how stupid you sound. I tell you what tho. Name 5 games with raid mm where the mechanics are the most important point. And they will succeed with mm.
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I didn’t question anything. It’s a very clear and obvious fact. I merely pointed it out because it does in fact have relevance. You’re responding. To me without displaying any intelligence. As far as five games are concerned, that’s a false flag if there ever was one. I can do that with anything. Name five games that have mechanic focused raids that DON’T have matchmaking. Go ahead.
