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1/11/2019 2:38:48 PM
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To Bungie: Cutting ties with Activision: A good thing! However...
Even at the risk of coming off as cringy, I wanna say this. If you dislike it, tough luck, move along.
I hope that one of the mods, ninjas or community chiefs sees this and maybe passes it on, it is an honest and genuine statement and concern of mine (even though my hopes are slim because Bungie seems to be more active on reddit and twitter and I am on neither of those platforms).
Bungie, plenty of people were surprised and excited about the end of the partnership with Activision. I am one of them too. Self-publishing, even with all the risks that come with it, is a great opportunity for a studio and allows for more freedom and pursuit of ideas and creativity.
So, hats off. Best of luck, I commend you on it.
However, apart from the risk that comes with it I want to bring up that in this particular case, I see you, Bungie, under the burden of proof. With all presumed limitations and shackles cast off there is just no more room for excuses and apologies henceforth. Whatever you plan to do with Destiny 3, one thing you absolutely can NOT do: Hold back.
These news of splitting from Activision took everyone by the balls in the best possible way. I have seen not just a few people actively regaining hope, respect and even trust in you and they immediately thought of the future and how things will be all better now. This puts pressure on the studio, I hope you know this. Expectations are now high, higher than they have probably ever been for Destiny. Even higher than they were before D1 released.
So when you create D3, which I assume you already started doing: Make the Destiny you always wanted to make. Make it the Destiny we love to play. Make it a worthwhile finale for this trilogy. Go all out. The final confrontation of light and dark. No holds barred, no punches pulled. For every decision and every step you take, go an extra mile. Do not be humble. Show off how good you are. Brag a little. Be confident. Show off the skill and talent of your whole team: From the CEO over the composers, the writers, the modelers, the designers and artists, the coders, the voice actors right down to even the janitors.
End the Destiny project with a bang. Give this series a grandiose ending. One that makes people look back fondly and be thoroughly happy they stuck with you through the bad times.
If you play your cards right, you can right every wrong that has been done with Destiny. You can get back every bit of love and trust that you might have lost. Often people have said that Destiny still had potential yet untouched, and it's true. And NOW is the time to reach deep into that potential and exhaust it completely. No other moment would be more right than NOW.
People are now willing to come back to you, with open arms, all you have to do is embrace the embracement and give us your very best. Even with all the shit that might have gone down, you still have a community that wants to see you succeed, that wants to see your very best. We are all rooting for and supporting you.
But the rest it up to you.
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Because ducks fly together
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Bungie will -blam!- it up. Mark my words.
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1 ReplyI hope Anthem is better than Destiny and Destiny 2. Then I hope Bungie employees play it and take notes. Then I hope Destiny 3 is even better than Anthem!
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Maybe they can use all this supposed 'freedom from deadlines' (Ha, I can't even type that with a straight face) to take the time to build an engine that isn't garbage before they start bolting ideas on to the one they've got for the 3rd time. I know, never going to happen. Even if they had all the time in the world (they don't), without significant funding, they need to produce something big asap to get those meaningful revenue streams going.
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Supers got nerfed. Bring back Activision now!
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11 RepliesThey will never make it self publishing their games. As great as it sounds to have the freedom to make a game, answering to nobody, the problem is, without the financial backing of infinite money machines like Activision, EA, Microsoft and the like, the quality of your product will not be “AAA quality”. As talented as Bungie’s programmers, artists and sound departments all are, they won’t have the money to finance things like cinematic cut scenes, and more importantly marketing and advertising. You can also forget your hopes of ever having dedicated servers. Judging by Bungie’s seemingly standard practice of working on a Destiny game for 2 years, then just scrapping and cutting all that work to sloppily rush the game in the final year, now you can also add in poorer production, poor marketing and advertising, cutting corners, and an absolute balls to the wall focus on micro transactions. Although I’m glad they are done with Activision, they need a publisher if they even want to stay relevant and make top quality games people expect from a developer like Bungie.
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1 Replyconsidered this as bungies brexit where they wanted independence and they got it without calling an referendum where as the scotts failed to get independence from the united kingdom and brits will be leaving the EU so they don't need German chancellor Angela Mirkle telling them how to ran an country now bungie is free from the chains and shackles from Activision so they can shape the game in thier vision not to please investors of Activision now the future is bright but not deffinatly orange but shades of two tokens and an blue.
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Honestly, I hope they nail it for their next installment under the self published banner. It's a double edged sword though, freedom/ less funding. I can't help but feel Bungie are " holding aces " ( pun intended ) though, there's a lot on the line for them and despite anything that has been said or construed they are a talented studio. They have an amazing game world and the gunplay and general game play mechanics have proven themselves to not only be very good and engaging, but somewhat addictive for a large amount of its players. I believe they will have a lot of " unofficial " support from others, and of course the community itself is going to help shape some of the decisions. They have the golden goose, now they just need to make sure they can get it to lay that egg we were promised.
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https://comicbook.com/gaming/2019/01/12/activision-under-investigation-for-fraud-bungie-slit/
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13 RepliesYou are delusional as hell. At this point the only thing Bungie could do to restore even a fraction of my faith in them would be to refund the 200+ dollars I spent on this piece of shit game.
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1 ReplyPlot twist: Activision too thinks cutting ties is a good thing!
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Do we really need a d3 at this point? I don't want to start over again. all the balancing and tweaks, unlocks and progression for naught. Major content drops, build on what you have and stop trying to feed us a new title. fix the game. A new title every few years barely works for lobby based shooters. why would it work for a looter shooter where our collection and everything we worked for is what keeps us playing
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Edited by Salamander: 1/11/2019 9:02:12 PMIn all honesty, you would have to be out of your mind to buy Destiny 3, or preorder it at least. Destiny 2 still has a long way to go and so many people are sucking up to a Destiny 3. That's insane after everything we were out through since D1. I'm not bashing Bungie for the sake of bashing, but D1's base campaign story was so horrendous and shallow, what the heck is there to look forward to even in D2 right now? I'd be surprised if we even get a look at the triangle ships at the end of the D2 campaign. It shouldn't take a game more than $40 worth of DLCs to finally start getting a coherent story and that's what Bungie did. As much as I did enjoy Forsaken, it shouldn't have taken another $40 worth if DLCs, plus more to get what we had in Forsaken. I truly hope things get better with the future of this game, but you have to be out of your mind to bury your head in the sand again.
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Your best bet Bungie is to call Phil Spencer and start kissing ass. Microsoft is known for investing in mediocre games.
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Thanks Dad
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If they go all out, why make it a trilogy? Why not, you know keep doing stuff? I agree with almost everything, but that seems weird. There's a million stories they could still tell, and maybe even redeem Osiris (wishful thinking there).
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1 ReplyI really hope they can finally turn Destiny into a truly amazing game. But they have their work cut out for them. Good luck, Bungie. You'll need it.
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Sure so remember to congratulate your dad when the bank takes the house back and leaves you to the streets.
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4 RepliesActually, this is a bad sign. The cost of leaving Activisions contract means far less money for development. This ship is sinking fast.
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1 ReplyI feel like Activision should be like "you want out? Sure, just as soon as one fire team of 3 employees beats a ridiculously hard and poorly designed puzzle room...."
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1 ReplySo in conclusion: You create a totally brilliant game, you bring back players. You create the most terrific[2] game, you're basically dead.
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I think majority aren’t tbh, you realise we’ve had 5 years of this shit already? It’s not gunna change. The only good thing is now theres no excuses this time.
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1 ReplyI do think you are being a bit mushy... but... I agree with the overall points of: - Losing Activision is a good thing. There definitely seemed to be a different of opinion between the two parties... and Activision's greed colors every one of their opinions. - Bungie has the chance to prove itself now and do things right without meddling. Where I disagree is that the notion is that Bungie will somehow go immediately back to the Bungie of Halo (in a good way). I want to hope so. I really do. But, Bungie's rep has been hugely tarnished in my eyes and they'll have to earn their status back in my book. ...and truly... I hope they do. I won't be back to Destiny though unless I see real change from them, including a reasonable grind to the game, not a lifestyle... and [i]abandoning the pandering[/i] [to streamers].
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5 RepliesI havent bought Forsaken ( and still will not) because Bungie screwed up too many times and lo and behold look at how the annual pass is turning out to be. As much as Forsaken got great reviews I knew the annual pass was and is, a joke. So with this new news, I too am one of the hopeful out here wishing Bungie comes out with a bang on Destiny 3 because I refuse to be any oart of Destiny until then.
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2 RepliesAgreed with everything except this: [quote]Expectations are now high, higher than they have probably ever been for Destiny. Even higher than they were before D1 released.[/quote] I find hard to believe that anyone who's been around since the beginning has higher hopes now than before Destiny 1 launch. I know I don't have them.
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Edited by BloodS1ay3r: 1/12/2019 8:39:19 AMActivision or not, I'm not going to be welcoming with open arms. If anything I'm cautiously optimistic. I'm not pre ordering and buying anything else (other DLCs or D3) on release. It's yet to be seen what bungie can create on their own. D1 released as a dumpster fire and D2 followed suit. I'd recommend people not have blind faith with Destiny or any other game. I love the game don't get me wrong, but after D2 initial launch, then 2 awful DLCs I soured. I still played but spite played if that makes sense. Forsaken was great, and black armory so far is decent. Adding things like random rolls and machine guns didn't do much for me. That stuff was in D1 already.....I love the universe they've created but have always felt there is so much wasted potential, and small short comings that they should have seen from a mile away.
