The crucible maps in destiny 2 are some of the worst pvp maps ive ever had to play and it comes down to a couple reasons: 1. Theyre tiny. I know the maps were made smaller compared to d1 maps due to crucible being 4v4 now, but the maps being as small as they are means that spawns flip every single death and that youre punished for being the last on your team to die in a gunfight because you are forced to run and rejoin your team just in time to watch then lose the next gunfight. Legions gulch is a small map made even smaller due to the fact that the island where the b flag is at is never used in a non-control game because its garbage to try and fight anyone over there and the connector bridge that links it to the other 2/3 of the map has a bunch of walls blocking any good sightlines. Which means that if you want to try and use that side if the map or have any sort of long range gunfight, you have to stand on top of the bridge, in the open, hoping not to get mapped by the graviton. 2. The sightlines/overall layout of the maps are laughably bad. Practically all of the maps are circular or have to some sort of giant piece of map clutter that separates the map into tiny little sections or just cockblocks any good sightline in general. A perfect example of this is retribution, its literally a giant circle with the central connector hallway meeting point thing having pylon that blocks your view to the other side. Another example is dead cliffs. Not only is there a building that serves as a giant wall separating the map and making essentially a giant O shape, but the sightlines are purposefully put at diagonal angles of each other or are otherwise put at odd angles to make sure that the sightlines suck. Im honestly not sure if changes like these were made to reduce the effectiveness of sniper rifles or to make the games feel more “involved”, but the only effect its had is to annoy me by making sure every time i try to have a gunfight with someone, theres a concrete pillar/random wall/bodyblocking teammate thats in my way. 3. The heavy ammo system sucks. Once either your team or the enemy team has the momentum of spawntrapping the other team going, its not hard to snowball the heavy packs to make sure that the other team never gets the chance pick it up and use it. The problem with having only two people supposed to have heavy ammo at a time means that those players have an undeniable advantage over literally every other player in the lobby. Thats why the old heavy system was better. Sure, it was an absolute free-for-all of truth rocket spam and sword fights, but thats infinitely better than trying to kill a guy and having him run up as youre shooting him and one shot you with a shotgun. At least in the old system i could counter heavy weapons with heavy weapons of my own. In d2 theres no counterplay to getting one shot when literally nothing outside of heavy ammo and some supers are able to one shot. You just have to accept death. 4. Less a reason and more of an observation, but trying to use anything that could be considered long-range weaponry feels like trying to parallel park a monster truck.