I don't really care for reading that loudly, but alright. So, I'll break this down simply; CoD is probably going to do somewhat well, but because it is the same game with some slightly different mechanics and is essentially a multiplayer game with a campaign mode that serves as a rather drawn out tutorial (of which less than 5% ever finish), the franchise has been stagnating as of late. It could be due to the fact that modern warfare type games have kind of tanked because people have been getting sick of burly white dudes shooting at people of various different nationalities. It is a safe game, now. Everyone knows its just multiplayer with a tacked on story. The last one to get anywhere near profound was CoD4, and after that, the main character death scenes became token and cliche because they used it every other level. The market is flooded with those and right now, it looks like they wanted to go towards the scifi side of things because they saw what their former colleagues were doing over at Respawn Entertainment and said, "You know, those guys that made us awesome are doing something cool... maybe we ought to copy them rather than Battlefield." [spoiler]Before you throw all your toys out of the pram for that last statement, I'm going to direct you towards Battlefield 2 (2005) and CoD4 (2007). They are fairly similar in style and gameplay, the only difference being that Battlefield 2 was strictly online multiplayer, but was fairly well put together and had the ADS bit going as well.[/spoiler] On the other side of things, between catering to PS owners with pretty graphics, early released content, and treating the community as if it has an IQ over melted cheese, and the fairly consistent Halo fans (I did not say fanboys, they are in a different category), Bungie has created a good following. It helps that Activision has been hyping the bollocks off of the game for a while and the gameplay shown at E3 and Gamescom has been great to begin with, but that might also be it. Bungie opens up the doors to the community to show off what it has without really just throwing things around. For CoD:AW, it seems like what we get are a bunch of cut together clips and some gameplay that seems to lack what looks like challenge, wherein the character is either severely outclassing everything or standing around and looking at his team mates. But as for your bits, sure. The loading screens are kind of dull, but whatever. Chat with people. The companion app was also in beta, so it was being tested. They also didn't release everything, so there was that. You can also use your PC. Sure, it'd be nice, but whatever, it would kind kill the pacing a bit if you stopped every few feet when one of those popped up. You have other people waiting, so you have to move. 6v6? So what? The game seemed populated to me on the maps. It wasn't all that often that I went without seeing someone for a while because the game has targets to attack and defend. And the space flight? Unless this is meant to become NMS, Space Battlefield, or whatever on earth Reach was trying at with the random flying bit, I don't think it is necessary. Space combat wouldn't really further the story at all. You use it for travel, that's about it. And the lack of a map is for many reasons that have been talked about to death in some threads. As far as I can piece together, there are not maps because many of the places are being discovered. You are meant to wander around and find shit. Find a hole in the wall or a new corridor. Done. The addition of a map would remove any sense of wonder and would give away the openings to secret areas that you are meant to discover. We'll see what happens, but right now, it looks like Destiny is taking it. And I'll be honest, I hope it does. It'd show that gamers care about more than just shooting at each other and perhaps a story is actually worth something to just visceral and carnal joy.

I present you with this which as you can see just by doing simple math makes everything you said invalid. The new COD is just not selling that well, facts are facts.

CoD most of us in this thread agree. Call of Duty is dying mainly because it never changes and is filled with a bunch of annoying 12 year olds.

Please take your keyboard, take a pair of pliers and wiggle the "caps lock" key off of your keyboard. Now jam it violently into your reproductive organs until they cease to function. When you have completed this task you may return to paraphrasing Forbes articles and playing cod. Good day!

Lol. CoD is dying, and dying fast. Destiny, is the most pre-ordered game in HISTORY. I DOUBT IT CoD will even be close to Destiny in pre-orders.

Nobody reads cap lock walls of text

[quote]AFTER PLAYING THE BETA I WAS NOT IMPRESSED THERE WERE SERIOUS GAMEPLAY AND JUST ISSUES. LIKE IF YOU SHOOT AT SOMETHING WHEN GLIDING YOU DONT USUALLY HIT THE TARGET AND IT MAKES YOU STOP GLIDING AND FALL. AND THERE WAS ONLY 6 VS 6 THEN IT GOT SMALLER PLUS THERE WERE HUGE WAITING PERIODS JUST TO GO THE MAP SCREEN IN FALLOUT ITS ON YOUR WRIST AND IT TAKES 5 SECONDS TO LOAD. PLUS SO FAR THERES NO SPACE FLYING. AND IN THE TRAILER IT MADE IT SEEM LIKE IF YOUR IN A FIRE-TEAM AND KILL BOSSES THAT YOU GET THE LOOT AND EXPERIENCE SHARED SO EVERYBODY GETS IT AND YOU DONT HAVE TO LOOK FOR IT THE CHESTS ARE OKAY, AND THERE SHOULD BE THE COMPANION APP IN THE GAME LIKE CHECKING YOUR GRIMOIR SCORE OR CLAN BECAUSE THE APP SUCKS. PLUS IF ANY OF YOU HAVE AN XBOX 1 THERES A 4 HOUR TRAILER THAT SHOWS HOW THEY HAVE ALREADY CORRECTED ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS.[/quote] COD is so dead and thank god for that! After all these years it's the same old arcade fps. Halo, destiny, hell even battlefield is a MUCH better shooter.

Nice to know you're stoked for Call of duty: TitanFall 2.5

[quote]AFTER PLAYING THE BETA I WAS NOT IMPRESSED THERE WERE SERIOUS GAMEPLAY AND JUST ISSUES. LIKE IF YOU SHOOT AT SOMETHING WHEN GLIDING YOU DONT USUALLY HIT THE TARGET AND IT MAKES YOU STOP GLIDING AND FALL. AND THERE WAS ONLY 6 VS 6 THEN IT GOT SMALLER PLUS THERE WERE HUGE WAITING PERIODS JUST TO GO THE MAP SCREEN IN FALLOUT ITS ON YOUR WRIST AND IT TAKES 5 SECONDS TO LOAD. PLUS SO FAR THERES NO SPACE FLYING. AND IN THE TRAILER IT MADE IT SEEM LIKE[/quote] of course it's harder to hit while you glide if it wasn't it would be overpowered. second 6v6 is not small most games go up to 8v8 so not a big deal also this was a beta so of course loading will take awhile the game isn't finished. Lastly never did bungie say they were trying to out do call of duty

Destiny is already no. 1, in the most pre orders(at gamestop) in history

Who watched the advanced warfare multiplayer reveal? Did anyone else feel like their "new" features were just a halo rip off? Promethean vision, the fold out shield, invisibility? It still looks fun, but they didn't seem to address replay value - looks the same with some new tricks - which I feel bungie has done quite nicely (RPG aspect) with destiny.