[quote]Actually trials is endgame not iron banner that's competitive.[/quote] Thats why I put them in the "". They're not actual end game but they're supposedly "pinnacle" crucible activities. I probably didn't explain it very well but I knew what I meant.

[quote]Sorry but that still boils down to "I don't like losing". Try and fancy it up how you want but your argument for a freelance playlist is because 6 stacks win easily and you don't like it.[/quote] It doesn't boil down to that. It boils down to the average player in an average playlist wanting a decent experience out of that playlist. And yes, they do win easily, that is the point. There is nothing enjoyable to the common player when being spawn trapped and mercy ruled. It encourages players to leave when they see clans rather than see it through, because it is actually more beneficial for them to do so. That shouldn't be the case, as it screws over other players in the process. If we had lobby balancing where groups are more likely to match groups, or a simple freelance option which has been incredibly popular since it's inception, this would happen less frequently. [quote]Splitting the playlist into a freelance option doesn't stop 6 stacks, it just removes solo queue players from their path. You think 3 duos are gonna fair much better against a stack of 6? What happens to 5 stacks when there are no solo players to make up the numbers? [/quote] Correction: splitting the playlist into a freelance option stops any stack. And that question is a matter of whether or not the group should simply find more players to stack with in LFG. Not that hard, and people have done it commonly, especially when iron banner came around. [quote]Changes shouldn't be made to quickplay, they're not needed. You take the L and move on because it has absolutely no less rewards or impact than if you win.[/quote] And yet clans constantly force people to leave, because that is actually more beneficial to them. Nobody plays crucible for loot anymore, they place to have a decent experience. That experience is ruined if somebody like me shows up in a 6-stack full of seasoned pubstombers looking for easy 50 kill matches via a no-cap spawn trap. There is taking a loss like normal, and then there are odds that nobody wants to go against. It's not fun for them. Hell, it's.not even worth the time for them since most of those matches get mercy ruled anyways. [quote]Freelance in comp personally doesn't make sense to me but I can at least sort of understand why it was added. Same with iron banner.[/quote] Because competitive...isnt very competitive. Who cares. Freelance opened comp up for a lot of players and that's an amazing thing. Same with Iron banner. Before, a stack was practically REQUIRED for that mode, now people can actually play it without going through that effort in a mode that is basically a glorified quickplay playlist with light level modifiers. If freelance is an iron banner, then there is literally no reason why it shouldn't be in quickplay. They are essentially the same thing. [quote]But not quickplay, winning doesn't matter. So these teams that run stacks 24/7, leave them to it. The actual chances of running into consecutive 6 stacks is very low, even lower for them to all be good. If they wanna farm then let them farm.[/quote] Winning doesn't matter, yes. What matters is keeping players in those games. It has been commonly known that players leave when seeing large groups being pitted against them, because it literally is not worth their time as mentioned before. [quote]Like I said though, your argument is basically that you don't like losing to stacks. If your concern was genuinely with the quality of matchmaking and frequency of mercy rules or "unbalanced" it is, and not that you need a safe space, then campaign for limited fireteams to 3 instead of 6. [/quote] My argument is that being in a stack makes quickplay too easy. You blatantly didn't listen. I'm sure me and many of my clan mates have enjoyed going on 100+ win streaks with over half of them being mercy ruled. Was that fun for anybody else? No. Most of them left, or just outright stayed to get spawn camped. It's easy [i]abuse[/i] That's all it is, and it happens because bungie simply allows it. Which does not make since considering we had freelance options for other modes. [quote]But, the issue there is it destroys one of the only modes where a larger group of friends can play. If i log on and theres three friends on destiny, the only choice we have as a 4 stack is crucible (we dont talk about gambit). We dont have enough for a raid, we could split into pairs and do strikes, but why would we split up if we wanna play together. The only option is crucible. Same goes for 5 stacks[/quote] Then you can play in the regular playlist, not the freelance one. If I can find easy games while running a trio in iron banner's non-freelance playlist, then you can find games faster in the non-freelance quickplay mode. You act like the situation would be hopeless when that simply is not the case. [quote]What destiny needs, is bigger team sizes in other activities and new activities. This gives those teams of 4 or 5 or 6 other options to play. Sure you will still have the teams who want to farm, but at least the sheer amount of 4 and 5 stacks should completely drop.[/quote] Big team battle from D1 would be what you are looking for.

[quote]True. Waiting on that stasis titan nerf so that the other subclass are not obsolete. You may say they aren't, but in a game mobility is the skill gap, behemoth is jist far above everything else. It has both the fastest titan mobility in the game, while also having crowd control abilities. Recipe for disaster for other titan subclasses. Not only is aggressive play extremely dangerous for titan-light based subclasses, but there are literally no easy options for stopping pushes as effectively as stasis does.[/quote] In terms of mobility the titan behemoth is still 3rd. Hunters rule the roost thanks to the jump and stompees boost. Top tree dawnblade is second. Then behemoth comes in 3rd. I agree its strong but I also feel like it's too easy to yeet yourself off a cliff using it. But I do get what you mean completely. In regards to our other conversation topic, about freelance, to save having two chains I'm gonna reply here. You make a lot of good points and I can see where you're coming from with a lot of it. I think maybe my old brain just doesn't like change so I'll likely never be able to agree fully that freelance should be in quickplay. I also think that me being naturally very competitive means I just have a mindset of "get better or get over it". Not saying its the right mindset or that it's a particularly pleasant one, just the one that I have. We all have our flaws after all. But with regards to the big team thing, I was thinking more strikes and patrols. Maybe even a horde mode. Keep playlist strikes and nightfall ordeals as they are , but give me the option to just fly into a strike from the directory with a fireteam of 6. Let me manually select the difficulty, like with the 5 of swords or whatever it was a few seasons ago, and just fly into a strike with my friends. Its not hurting anyone, it's not cheesing pinnacles because they're just standard strikes, and there are various lore bits that tell of teams of 9 doing stuff together. Same with patrol, who is it hurting if I load in with 4 friends? Make a plain survival horde mode thing. Think COD zombies but with Hive. Up to 6 players for example. Could even have that be a Trials of Osiris equivalent for PVE. 45 waves, rewards every 15. Call it Trials of Zavala for all I care. Make the map the same as the first ever area in destiny, the other side of the wall, or have it in the old tower. You get dropped in and have to defend the area. I'm just spitballing ideas now, but you get the jist of it. Destiny is supposed to be a game to play with your friends, so for the love of all things chocolatey, let me bloody play with my friends bungie. We have crucible and raid as the only two modes that allow 6 players. Personally I think that's absolutely bonkers.

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