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So we can get new good guns, without breaking the game. I regularly play Master/GM Nightfalls /Raids / Dungons and it's been the same meta weapon setups for the better part of over a year now. If you're not using the currently "best in class" weapons on a specific NF, then you're putting your team at a deficit. After you've been running these builds for a while, it's time for a change. "Sunsetting" isn't new to Destiny, this happened back in Destiny 1. While I do miss my Fatebringer/Black Hammer, Ghorn setup from Y1, looking back on it, it was the right call to cap those weapons to Y1 power levels. When going through Taken King/Rise of Iron content, I was able to seek new weapons and builds and it had me experimenting with gear that I hadn't normally used. My main concerns at first with sunsetting in D2 were the following : 1. A simpler path to acquire a specific weapon - Bungie has "focus engrams" and game currency to spend to address this. They also did this in S10 with Bunker Bounties, and in S9 with Sundial. 2. Easier ways to farm high stat roll gear - Bungie has addressed this with the new Dungeon and changes for retroactive raid gear farming. 3. Simplicity to the mod system - Bungie announced changes starting in S12 that mod slots will obtain mods over the year, rather than the current +1/-1 rule. Don't get me wrong, I would like to see how they plan on addressing the "reprint" issue that many suggest (having to farm a new version of a weapon when you have the perfect one you like already sitting in your vault), but regardless, allowing a simpler path to obtain specific weapons does help in this. I have already obtained 3 Gnawing Hunger's this season that is the same as my previous (S6) with an alternate 4th perk slot as well. However, I am eager to look forward to having new powerful weapons that will have their time in the spotlight, new builds to experiment and play with for endgame. As soon as these plans were announced, I have been sifting through my vault getting rid of old weapons, replacing some already, and organize what builds I want to use more going forward. I enjoy using Mountaintop (10K kills), Recluse (50k kills), Delirium (8k kills), Wendigo (10k kills), etc as much as the next person, but I am excited to see what new weapons and builds come from all these changes.
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  • Folks, he swooped in to drop this and dipped out. They don't care what anyone is talking about, scream as loud as you want. Don't like it? Just bail ship when something better comes along.

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  • Bungie have now twice, TWICE, stated to respect our time and investiment. One all that time ago and then in the beyond light reveal. Sunsetting goes completely against this and there is no way to excuse it. No way to reason round it. If they sunset they have lied to us twice. If the do respect the community then sunsetting has to be sunset.

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  • I hate the fact that I worked crazy hard, pre quest nerf, to obtain my favorite setup, Mountaintop, Recluse and Wendigo and my reward is they get capped out. After they did this in D1, they stated they would never do it again. Remember how fun it was not to get Icebreaker again. It was used as a selling point in D2 that we get to keep the items we worked for. Hell you guys should run for office the way you keep promises.

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  • So we can get new guns without breaking the game? There will always be a meta, the only thing that will change is the name of the guns that are part of the meta. Bungie need to focus on making other decent weapons without only nerfing. They did that for a while and things were fun, then opulence showed we had too much power creep primarily due to auto reloads and buff/debuffs stacking, they removed that as a factor AND have only nerfed since, now we have the opposite effect of power creep, we're getting weaker all the time instead. Nothing changes just because weapons are retired. You wanna know how to change the way we play the game? Change the damn sandbox. Don't just change our weapons and abilities, change enemy health and damage values, stomp mechanics, physics, etc.

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  • Couldn’t agree more we like what we like stop changing it. In a way.

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  • ON THE BRIGHT SIDE THEY DID BRING BACK TRIALS AND THEY BROUGHT BACK BLUEBERRY FARMING TO MAKE THE LOW LIFE POS SWEATY COWARDS HAPPY

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  • so we can get new better guns...like the same nightwatch last perdition, gnawing hunger etc. the honest issue is they cant bare the fact ppl wont put down mountaintop, recluse, nf etc. they've proven that by reissued weapons repeatedly. i would rather them nerf those weapons into the ground instead of regrinding gnawing hunger, nightwatch. their reasons sound great but do the opposite by giving us the same guns the very next season.

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  • But why the armor though? That's what I don't get, I just wana wear some old Iron Banner armor

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  • Any word on when exotic sunsetting will begin? Luke said no current plans to, legendaries first. So, next season maybe? Any info on what will be free to play next season?

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  • If they sunset exotics I’m done.

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