<Savathûn and Nokris are more likely working together. Savathûn accepted his broods invitation to talk.>

Nokris' brood was desperate to survive after Nokris/Xol were considered dead and most likely knew Savathun was around via Titan. The brood was (as I remember) "begging" Savathun to take their power. Of which there is also an "Adventure" where Savathun's Brood on Titan is specifically messing around with Necromancy before the events of Warmind and Nokris/Xols awakening. So Savathun [i]was[/i] messing around with Heresy after Oryx was killed because of her burning desire not to die to a 20/20 hindsight mistake. At the very least Nokris would understand that she is going to manipulate him and toss him aside if she can't functionally enslave him. As seen with Quria being given to her by Oryx and how she planned to deal with Calus, she is exceptionally careful of surrounding herself with anyone that has "Free Will" and not completely subservient. Riven and Quria have longterm uses despite their "Freedom". Nokris... short-term gains at the most because of his necromantic knowledge. But he is a vast liability since he is direct competition whom is magically adept and blessed by a Worm God. I didn't necessarily mean that Nokris would directly oppose her in a naive attempt at open-war, but implied some backstabbery or underhanded nature to a feud. -We already know Calus is going to butt-heads with Savathun -We know Savathun is desperate to ultimately survive but also paranoid and scheming -We know Calus is looking for a new Hive Shadow. -We know Savathun was already messing around with Necromancy after Oryx died and before Nokris came into the picture. -We have reason to believe Nokris is still alive and rejects the standard dogma of the Hive -We have no actual idea what Nokris' goals are... provided Bungo actually didn't just toss him in there as a "villain of the week" despite his lineage, lore, and capabilities -We know Calus still has Hive "under his command" despite Gahlran becoming a dead traitor -These hive largely make use of "teleportation" which Nokris' Brood makes extensive use of, in contrast to even what's shown of Savathun's Brood using more traditional methods For all we know... Shadowkeep could instead be Xivu Arath who has been previously poking around with the Taken in the Dreaming City. A fortress definitely fits the "Knight" style of Xivu more than it does the scheming Witch Savathun. This could also explain the Hive's red colouration as this has never been seen before from any brood currently ingame. Quria could have been given to Xivu (to misuse) and unwittingly act as bait while Savathun prepares to confront Calus while we're preoccupied with nonsense on the moon.

<Balwur and Dul Incaru, both daughters of Savathun, have red somewhere on their person. Incaru has the red cape and robes while Balwur is completely red in design. Not to mention that many of the Moon's Hive markings and aesthetic fits the Hidden Swarm from D1, almost to the letter. The 'hidden" portion of their names suggest something not Xivu. Calus, while obviously important enough to Savathun to try to take out, isn't the biggest threat in the system to her.>

Although I concede to Dul Incaru, it could also be a stylistic thing as there is subtle variation in alot of high-ranking Hive. Granted this could cut both ways as the variation could in fact be the rest of her outfit being stylistically different. Balwur however is definetly more of a red-red and less of a noticeable but dull crimson. Calus, however, is obviously something that should be dealt with sooner rather than later. He is more likely to swoop in and help the Guardian if ignored, which is probably what the plan was with Gahlran letting the Hive invade the Leviathan. However that plan was basically foiled as soon as it started and Calus' omniscience keeps the Hive he has under to be harmless sport. These hive are also most likely Savathun's and bare no red colouration, and red appears to simply be a colour of rank (similar to the colour purple was in ancient times) given multiple high-ranking hive use it in some form. <I too can put these symols before and after my comment, gue'vesa.>

% If Quria can take then theres no point in making glorified zombies. Quria has already shown she can take dead enemies from the past (i.e "The Whisper" mission). I doubt she's behind these new nightmare enemies. The taken are literally enemies drowned in darkness. These nightmare enemies will probably have some new abilities, but no point in wasting resources in making zombies when you can just take them. %