Kelly, I appreciate that you write these posts because you care about the game and clearly want it to be better, but it's not doing you or anyone else any good repeatedly banging the drum, because it may as well be your head against a brick wall. Bungie are not listening, they are not conversing, there has never been this 'ongoing discussion' they repeatedly mention and the cycle of manipulative behaviour they set in motion years ago just loops again and again. * Add something cool and get us all buzzing, announce major changes a short while later. * Add something to grind for or obtain, nerf it later (once we've wasted our time). * Make a significant in game change, roll it back later (and sometimes not even admit it). * Promise not to do something again and just do it again anyway. *Etc, etc. Why do any of us put up with it? I get it, it's Bungie's game and they will do what they like, but their stubbornness and unwillingness to converse or learn will be the end of Destiny. We need to all wake up and realise when the enjoyment has stopped and we are just playing for the sake of it (or are addicted). There are better things to be doing with our time than trying to improve our hobby when in reality we have no say whatsoever.