Very sound advice OP. I agree with all of it. Although many won't stick through a losing game. It's sad that all this drama could be avoided if Bungie did like most MMOs and alternate objectives. For every PVE Step there is a PVP Step & vice versa. The vitriol is created due to players being strong armed into it. I learned my lesson in D1. Right now I have D2 base due to PS Plus & I haven't even unlocked Crucible. Shaxx gave the unlock quest. It will rot in my quest book however. Sadly, the undeniable truth is that players will play the content that they want. Be it PVP or PVE, Bungie needs to let players organically play PVP. Quest steps/game progression being tied to it creates animosity because the players aren't organically being allowed to play the mode. Instead they feel "forced". Trying to force/entice/push/suggest another mode to them just creates the current situation the community is in & either pushes players away, creates toxicity, and/or has the opposite effect of the developers intention. I'm not saying don't have PVP quests, bounties, & etc. PVP deserves it as much as PVE. But Bungie needs to treat each equally. For questlines that are lore/etc. Like AoS, there should be PVE alternatives to the PVP steps & vice versa. End of story. I hope one day Bungie learns this. They seem to have learned alot with Forsaken yet some mistakes they just keep making. =/ Oh well. What kills me is that so many PVP players want people to just deal with the current situation yet they hate how many people aren't playing objectives, are sabotaging their team, feeding enemy players, & etc. Well, that's because players want to do their quest then never come back. So as a community players should come together & tell Bungie it's time for change.