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8/28/2018 2:28:14 AM
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Warlock melee speed is, in fact, still slower than Hunter and Titan melee speed.
Thank you to u/SalvationWatch for testing it in [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/9as9td/bungie_since_you_levelled_out_the_melee_ranges/?st=JLD3BMSI&sh=0297c416]this Reddit post.[/url]
The hunter can [url=https://imgur.com/gallery/Oru3IDs]get off ten melees in the time it takes for a warlock to use eight.[/url]
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2 RepliesHonestly they should be the slowest but they should at least have the best range imo. I think that’s how it was in d1
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46 RepliesEdited by D-Von, Kell of Tables: 8/29/2018 12:48:42 AMWarlocks get buffed in 2.0 Warlock Mains : OMG MY MELEE IS INSIGNIFICANTLY SLOWER AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THERE IS A TREE IN STORMCALLER THAT INCREASES MELEE RANGE BUT I HATE YOU BUNGIE MAKE MY CLASS BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE Titans get buffed in 2.0 Titan Mains: Thanks Bungie. These are good buffs that will help out my neutral game Hunters get NERFED and buffed in 2.0 Hunter Mains : Meh Wormhusk is bad now, and Orpehus lost a lot of it's utility but thanks for the buffs Bungie. At least now people can stop wasting space on the forums complaining about Wormhusk and Arcstrider all the time even though they weren't OP just Overused. The point is Warlocks just got quite a few buffs and 0 nerfs so be -blam!-ing happy you didn't get two of your -blam!-ing exotics nerfed and your only significant buff was 2 seconds to a piece of trash super. Ungrateful
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3 RepliesThe warlock shouldn’t have a better melee than the titan in the first place though since every skill tree on the titan is made for optimizing melee engagements in fights and to get up close and personal. Warlocks on he other hand are better at long range with better supers to combat mid range to far away enemies and to get better use out of the grenades like charging it for more damage or even consuming it for more health. I think this is balanced
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They also have shyt range. I mean wtf? They’re supposed to have the more powerful melee. I missed D1 days where i ran around the map bitch smacking ppl and madness melee kills vs Hive in the abyss of CE.
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1 ReplyEdited by blackoutx18: 8/29/2018 3:54:31 AMHonestly dont even get me started on the subject of warlocks being worse. I could rant for hours about how the nades are trash, the supers are just as bad and using blink makes you shoot your gun 33% less cuz you have to ready it after every jump. Arc souls are trash IMO cuz they do nothing in PVE (not much in pvp either tbh) . why stormcaller when you can use any other super in the game but, without the use of an exotic helm? Oh yea, those titans have 5 slams instead of 1bin this game, but warlock is still stuck with the single nova that DOESNT EVEN HAVE SHATTER. How about they also remove self Rez, cuz apparently using a super to clutch was “too op”. Scatter grenade doesn’t work whatsoever half the time, Phoenix dive is trash for many reasons and Icarus dash is even worse. Oh, you can shoot mid air! That’s cool! Oh wait, you have the worst jump in destiny and have 0 accuracy, on top of that the super is trash with that tree. And stormcaller has that usless perk “having full ability energy lets you super longer.” Nah, I need my nade for kills, I’m not gonna throw away my life so that my super lasts longer next use. And that extended melee range might as well just be a new animation with no actual change. Oh yea, titans 1 hit charge in pvp and throwing knife also does more damage, but you warlock, you can now reload your primary by sprinting with an exotic on..... oh well, here I go again...... as I said, I could rant for hours.
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I knew something was up. I almost always lost on my Warlock when it comes to a melee dual and I win a lot more on my hunter.
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After playing warlock for 3 yeard i gave hunter a shot. The only thing i thought i would hate was the melee but turns out its better than D2 warlock with ophidian aspects on...the speed and recovery is extremely forgiving. Who would have thought that flameshild and lighting fingers were necessary to compensate for being the slowest melee subclass with the poorest movement mechanics. Personally i think movement mechanics should all be the same if your trying to make the game competitive. Or do a much better job at making sure they are all equal. I dont think thats never gonna happen.
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1 ReplyMust be nice to melee from 30 feet away lol
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Warlocks still out-damage Hunters with their Mele abilities, especialy when hooked together with void and an exotic that lets them HEAL wile they kill, and stack damage up to 5x, whch is insane even in PVE.
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3 RepliesDo you people actually melee?
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14 RepliesI ALWAYS loose from a Warlock melee, as a Hunter. Sometimes i even get one-meleed by a Warlock.
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Well, Warlocks were SUPPOSED to have the farthest melee range to make up for it... But nerf-happy Bungie wasn't having it.
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15 RepliesIt's clear people still have a hatred for D1 Warlock melee cause nobody, including Bungie seems to give a toss about it. Heck, there are still people who think Warlocks have a longer melee even though their all the same base range. IMO Titans and Hunters having a longer melee with Synthoceps and Deadly Reach, respectively, even compared to Stormcaller melee, still seems stupid to me because of the absolutely stupid lunge they have. Say what you will about the D1 Warlock melee but at least their lunge didn't make it so they effectively teleported everytime they used their melee. Bungie needs to balance the melee speeds or go back to D1 melees. Otherwise, melee-wise, Warlocks will suffer in the Forsaken sandbox.
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6 RepliesThe amount of people who justify it because 'longer range' even though that [u]hasn't existed for a year now[/u] astounds me. And you wonder why nerf posts are hunted down and destroyed now a days... because of this prevalence of PTSD and not actual fact. Stop using D1 PTSD to justify a bad D2 condition. Also, ffs, fix the scatter grenade bounce please. Something that [u]actually did manage to worm its way into D2 from D1[/u] and it's a bug/glitch that's been happening for 4 years now.
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Edited by Legend of Jordy: 8/29/2018 6:12:40 AMWarlocks with their maths and statistic nonsense.
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3 RepliesWarlock is the best class in the game, who cares..
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Okay I saw hunter but where the titan comparison?
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Warlocks, in general, have gotten the short end of the stick repeatedly. Look at all the Titan love and then look at the Warlock patch notes. Plus, I’ll pass on being your raid buff with my super. Knowing it’ll be the new require for Warlocks in the raid. Crappy sandals exotic will be Warlock’s Orpheus Rig. It’s D1 solar Rez all over again. Absolutely hated that tree and always had to use it in Raids. Hunter main confirmed for Forsaken and I’m actually considering playing Titan at length for the first time ever... and I’ve predominantly been a Warlock main and Hunter back up. Pretty salty about Warlock development or lack thereof.
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Edited by Deus: 8/28/2018 8:54:42 PMHow many more examples do we need of warlocks being nerfed to “maintain balance.” Attunement of Flame nerfed for PVP Rift Precision Damage Capped Rift Recharge speed Nerfed after Beta Underwhelming Exotics (some buffed after ~8 months) Scatter grenades LMAO!! Took away our Sunsinger Overshields Don’t matter though. Warlock 4 Life
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2 RepliesWho cares? Everything else about your class is busted.
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One would think they returned the original melee distance. But then that would be "unbalanced" 🙄
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Warlock melee range was terrible compared destiny 1
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1 ReplyIt blows my mind that people are still saying “But, but, warlocks have more range!” Idiots. I am curious about I’d actually connecting the melee affects anything. Wonder if you could test this on a group of thrall, see who can melee 10 faster.
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7 RepliesWarlock can stack damage with melee kills one after the other with exotic glove... 5x melee... over and over and over again...
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Bro, we got bigger problems then that. Didn't you see the Defender Titan and Striker Titan both shoulder charge each other at the same time but the Striker won. Shouldn't they be bouncing off each other like 2 Arc Strider Hunters? Or at least tell us what dictated the Striker to win.
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4 RepliesSo? Warlocks aren't meant to be gettiing into hand-to-hand combat anyway. Lore wise you're all Scholars.
