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Firstly, people aren't upset that Bungie isn't releasing the "full game" of Destiny. Most, if not all people understand that it is an experience designed to be told over a certain length of time, like any other series. Any person arguing that Bungie should release Destiny's entire story in one go is idiotic at best. What people are actually upset about is the horrendous business practices enacted by Bungie in this newest installment (Consumable shaders, expanding Eververse, lying about throttling experience gains, locking content that was previously available behind DLC[which was eventually fixed], and plenty of other stuff I fail to recall.) and the lack of content in this newest DLC when the company learned and accomplished so much from the first installment. Granted, Bungie is rolling out MANY improvements to the game's quality of life, many people have already made up their minds to not trust Bungie anymore after their initial scorn. "Destiny is and will be one of the best communities in gaming..." This right here is a massive opinion and frankly it may have once been close to the truth, but to have a great community you also have to have a limitless supply of loyal fans willing to support you, and with a vast amount of D1 players swearing off Destiny for good, I can't imagine this will become more than a wish. True, there is a lot of toxic behavior right now, although that doesn't exactly mean its a large community beyond people expressing their displeasure towards Destiny. These people aren't buying Silver or DLCs, so they aren't actively supporting Bungie or Destiny's production. These people do not enjoy the game. A game like Dark Souls or CSGO, however, may have a very toxic community who actively enjoy and support the developers. This is the difference between a toxic community, and toxic customers. Also, I actually hopped onto D2 today, and with the few amount of people I found I can guarantee you that the toxic players easily outnumber the satisfied ones. However, I am sure that you have managed to find many friendly players too, and thats great, yet nearly everything I've heard from others about D2 can be considered "toxic or disinterested". "...Most of the haven't played the game..." This is an awful statement. I'm sorry, but its true. You attempt to discredit thousands, if not millions of opposing opinions by simply saying "they jumped on the band wagon". At Destiny 2's launch, this COULD have been a relatively valid point, I even told myself that in the months leading up to the PC launch because I didn't want to hear it. I can't imagine that thousands of people who don't have any interest in D2 would take time out of their day to go onto Bungie.net, create an account, and then complain about very specific things they find wrong with the game. Again, your argument here is very weak and frankly isn't true. I'm in no way trying to be disrespectful, I'm just expressing what I think is true. Finally, as a huge Destiny fan myself, I have to say that I am very saddened by D2's current state. I have been playing Destiny 1 since launch like many others here, played through every once of DLC, collected every grimoire card I could, preordered D2 with a Discord full of friends who all did the same and... nothing. We all played together, finished the raid, and found ourselves with a bitter taste in our mouths. Many of them swore off of D2 after that, and it truly did sadden me at first. It was then I realized that simply being a "sequel" shouldn't be an excuse to have less content than your previous title, or retcon pieces of lore. Despite all of this, despite the lies and deceit, I still love Destiny. TL;DR: While Destiny 2 may be good in your eyes, the majority of the fanbase disagrees with your views for very valid reasons. Curse of Osiris was, frankly, a very disappointing to many despite you claiming them to be stupid. Your excuse that people hate the game because they don't play it is a common excuse for people who do not want to accept that a game they love is hated so much. Note: I'm sorry if this went on for far too long, I simply got carried away typing. To reiterate, I am a huge fan of Destiny, always have been, and will likely continue to play it, but I am no longer a fan of Bungie. Please do not take any of this as a personal attack, as I do not intend to offend you in any way. I simply disagree with what you are saying.
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  • Good post, but for me the biggest disappointment was D2 in its current form is inferior to D1. D2 should built off D1 but no there was change for changes sake to meet commercial objectives based on targeting a particular demographic and ignoring the long standing community expectations that had been been built up over 3 years. Woops nearly forgot the huge Bungie hubris we know better than you the players!

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  • Thank you very much! I agree wholeheartedly, D2 fails to live up to expectations set by D1 in nearly every way, at least at its current state. With all the changes they made "rebooting" this famous IP, Bungie has essentially alienated many of their long time fans, many such as myself growing up playing their games. I have always idolized Bungie, and frankly D2 feels like a massive smack in the face and a hand in the wallet. The final nail in the coffin for me has to be that "Bungie hubris" you mentioned. Taking ages to listen/respond to their fans, lying time and time again, releasing half-assed content, well, you know what I mean. As pathetic as it sounds, I've felt as though I'm losing an old friend. Again, thank you very much for your reply!

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