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3/1/2017 12:54:31 PM
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In religion, technically there is no logic/science because that would be somewhat called blasphemy.
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This is extremely inaccurate. In religion there is faith and faith alone. There can be science and reasoning, but it it's mutually exclusive from faith. The concept of faith is that a person is willing to believe something whether or not evidence, reason, or science support or negate it. You can have a scientist who believes in all scientific theory but simultaneously has religious faith that is counterintuitive to the aforementioned science. On one hand, you can say that a person is willingly choosing to be irrational. On the other hand, if the faith isn't too dogmatic that it greatly influences decision making about ordinary things (e.g. "Should I get coffee and go to work today or should I become a zealot and blow myself up for Allah?"), then there is no harm in it.
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[quote]In religion there is faith and faith alone. [/quote]Faith is, by definition, not logical. So SpaceBtwnCheeks is correct.
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You clearly didn't read what I wrote or didn't understand it. That's fine, however. Maybe I didn't adequately explain the dichotomous nature of faith vs objectivism and how it is completely possible for them to coexist. I said in religion there is faith and faith alone. That doesn't mean a religious person has faith and faith alone. You simply chose to read it with that connotation and had faith in your own understanding before taking the time to fully analyze what was written. So, I forgive you. I am a kind god.
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[quote]You clearly didn't read what I wrote or didn't understand it. That's fine, however. Maybe I didn't adequately explain the dichotomous nature of faith vs objectivism and how it is completely possible for them to coexist. I said in religion there is faith and faith alone. That doesn't mean a religious person has faith and faith alone. You simply chose to read it with that connotation and had faith in your own understanding before taking the time to fully analyze what was written. So, I forgive you. I am a kind god.[/quote]Faith has no part in logical thought. You can't apply logic to faith, because faith does not come from a logical place. If faith were logical, it wouldn't be faith.
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I can't speak for our religious systems, but that is very much untrue of Christianity. In fact, for a Christian to reject logic and science would actually be more blasphemous than not. We believe in a personal, Creator God who set the world in motion and gave it the order we see. Therefore, rejecting logic and science would be a rejection of His handiwork.
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But in some ways that concept is limited to a certain extent, but I dont really know too much, so I could be wrong.
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You are wrong. I'm not religious by any stretch of the imagination. I just respect people who have faith. Religion doesn't make people any dumber or any less able to use the full force of reason and science than people without religion. People who do bad things in the name of religion would equally do bad things in the name of science if religion was absent. Religion doesn't cause problems. People cause problems. There are some situations where religion ties with culture and law in such a way that it violates the inherent rights of those surrounded by it, but that is institutional, not personal. Science can cause great harm if institutionalized into culture and law as easily as religion. It is the reason that many Marxists and the [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url] were openly seeking to 'breed' humans.
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[quote]But in some ways that concept is limited to a certain extent, but I dont really know too much, so I could be wrong.[/quote] I don't quite understand what you mean by "limited to a certain extent." Are you saying that our ability to use logic and science are limited? What exactly do you mean?
