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Edited by Charlemagne: 1/25/2016 9:55:44 PM
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Alright, I study sociology. I'll break this down for everyone. Feminism is a movement which was started by females for females to bring their standard of living up to that of their male counterparts. Modern feminism incorporates male rights and support, equality for the sexes and genders, and much more. It is a branch of egalitarianism. If you identify as an egalitarian, you are a feminist. If you say otherwise, you're neither. You cannot be one without the other. Yes, there are extremists. There are extremists in almost everything. However, they are not nearly a representative population. The extremists are a very small portion of the population. Now, in the sociological word, there is a new term, sort of as a joke, called "postfeminism". This is really just a tease that is labelled on people who are feminists but who are afraid of the label for some reason. I think it's a funny little thing, that people could actually be afraid of being feminist, but it's definitely the fault of the media. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to address them. Please keep things classy, though.
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  • Thank you

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  • Thanks Charlemagne

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  • It's sad, the extremists speak louder then the actual feminists

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  • >classy >offtopic Pick one

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  • Charlemange

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  • Edited by LibertarianCajun: 1/25/2016 10:11:58 PM
    Wow, thanks. I just feel that it would be a good idea to change the name from feminist since they are fighting for the rights of both sexes you know?

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  • But at the same time, that means women have to once again compromise for men. See the issue?

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  • But why would that be an issue? Am I missing something here?

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  • I think so. It's a historical and modern issue that a lot of people, especially male, don't see. Women, very often, have to compromise for men when men don't have to. That's not to say that men don't compromise in some regards, in fact, there are instances where only men compromise. That being said, women are forced to compromise much more often. Feminism was found by women, for women. Only more recently has it come to encompass other people. Still, to say that all of that work done by women should be set aside so that the name can be changed to something that makes men feel less insecure is a slight against the movement. It's about equality/equity. In the modern world, that's a statement. It shouldn't matter what the name is. Women being in a place of power (in moderation to the rest of the world) is not a bad thing. I am male. Feminism, the movement and the name, shouldn't change because other males want it to be more in their favour if that means we take focus off women and their subjugation. Men are a part of feminism now but still have much else in their favour. For the most part, women just have feminism. Some might counter this point by saying there is next to no movements for men. Well, that's because men have never needed them in a general scale. Where men do need it, feminism takes the mantle to make sure things stay even, such as so that women aren't guaranteed custody when they don't deserve it, for example. TL;DR: Changing the name to make men more comfortable defies the movement.

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  • I see.

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  • I hope that clears everything up. Let me know if you have any more questions.

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  • Why have a movement (feminism) that is closely tied to the misandrists, extremists, and the movement itself doesn't condemn radicals. They actually push out and blacklist critical feminists. Why not associate with a group like egalitarian, rather than going with a pro sex movement.

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  • Because its hard to just change to name of an entire organisation like that. If the republikans were re-named "the elephants" no one would be calling them that for years.

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  • Because changing your name out of fear of what others say is a weak move. Feminists aren't always just feminists, but when they're acting as feminists that's when people seem to have a problem. Society condemns people who address that there are still inequalities between the sexes which shouldn't exist. Also, just because you aren't aware of something in a movement, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. All feminists I know, including myself, do condemn the matriarchs/extremist. However, no one cares. That's "normal" behaviour so no one talks about that. Feminist activists and writers also tend to be seen in very different ways. The activists are painted over as extremists and represented as the whole. That's not the case. There are many feminists who aren't activists and instead use their time to study and research for the activists.

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  • Im gonna copy-paste this in some threads if thats ok with you?

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  • Go ahead. Not my best write up since I was in a bit of a rush.

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  • Couldn't have said it better myself

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