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6/27/2015 5:50:10 PM
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Can I just get ingame LFG at this point? / Optional Matchmaking discussion.
Hi, Day 1 user from Hungary. Kinda skipped on playing Destiny for a few months, then I decided to reinvest in the game and buy the two expansions. Also rolled two new characters because I kept getting exotics for other classes.
Anyway that's my introduction. I already made a comment on the Bungie facebook page wanting matchmaking for all endgame content, but after I decided to try my luck on Reddit , and did the Raids... well I can kinda see why you need to look for users, and not just random luck. (I think Prison of Elders could work with Matchmaking, maybe even Skolas part, have not had the time to check that out)
Here's the thing though. The process in actually achieving a full group of six for a raid is really really time consuming. I'm not even talking about going online or here on the forums to post a request. It takes way too much time to actually gather a party of six. Not even that, it almost seems like blind chance, we do not know if the party leader will pick us up for the group, we don't know if once I send an invite or add a friend request (most annoying part of the entire process is bloating up my friends list with people). This resulted in me applying for multiple events accross multiple boards, and yet still the end result was:
I need to wait 30-40 minutes to start a session.
I'm not saying I need matchmaking for endgame content, I'm saying this game desprately needs an online lobby, or Looking For Group system that allows us to filter request, and the ability to track live requests without the need to friend people within the PSN or Xbox system. Hell why not just create an internal friend system, so it won't bloat my PSN friend list to gazzillions.
Please Bungie consider this request, as I enjoy doing the raids, and no it is not a hassle for me to get people from Reddit or from this site or any LFG, but the delay in actually getting people together and starting a match can be either a minute or an hour.
Or as a final resort, just announce it as a feature for TTK, just please please do something, as I am at my limit in terms of the patience I have for this type of: Wait in the line forever to do this content.
Could I please get a response to my concern ?
Sincerely,
A player who enjoys Destiny for all its shenenigans, and would love to make more friends across the world.
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No matchmaking ever
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Edited by II Stargazer x: 6/28/2015 4:07:00 PManother issue is hosts abusing there power by booting players from the game simply because they have a friend on who wants the rewards or simply to troll, the only benefit to matchmaking is time and accessibility, I could spend 6 hours on ANY LFG site waiting for a group but with MM it would be a maximum of 5 minutes, also Matchmaking should be OPTIONAL so players who like using LFG don't have to use it and in turn wont loose out
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1 ReplyBump. I might actually consider buying HoW/TTK if they added MM.
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Bump. and super BUMP
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3 RepliesBungie said no and they don't give a shit if you don't like it,you'll throw your money at the screen anyways!
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They are considering it, ... So far at the moment, what I see is a need for ingame matchmaking for one reason... this is not an MMO, if it were an MMO, we might need a better ingame communication tool but otherwise we would not really need in game MM :P I think a tutorial type system for beginners would be helpful (solo play, or fireteam) that you need to do certain things on before you can unlock MM for that activity... thats one option... Another option I think they should consider is MM for clans for endgame content (I am not in a clan and probably will not join one unless it becomes a functional use aside from getting a trophy) Generally, I would like to come home, plop down on couch, relax, turn on Tv, grab my choice of beverage (and a snack) and play my game... internet is an extra chore for finding a fireteam. They are considering it, the seriousness of their consideration is all I am wondering about. (I am also wondering if they do not have people with an imagination like me there for fixing current issues, I would hope they have enough people with my imagination that t least one can organize fixes or suggest solutions for already existing content ) I would dare apply for a position at bungie... but... All the requirements are, already have served in that position for X amount of time... (and I never want to have my name associated with the gaming version of asylum pictures, which appears only way to get there)
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Edited by softshell: 6/28/2015 5:25:07 PMIt really gets me how some people come here and claim we don't need match making because someone might quit! Really? Every time some one has quit on me the game gave me a new player, also you can always go in with a team and not have to do match making. Most of the end game stuff is unplayable for lots of people right now because of this flawed thinking. I have no problem with the price of the upgrade, I feel people should be paid for their work but i refuse to pay more if I only get to play half a game because the game company wants me to make friends online before I can play the damn game. The way it is right now you have to get up early on Tuesday and not have to work so you can get on a team before they all do the prison. Imagine having to do this for every match on Call of duty! I think the real reason they don't is because they know their servers can't handle the volume and would have to invest more money to upgrade the system.
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8 RepliesEdited by KiLLaFromTheBay: 6/28/2015 1:56:48 AMI hate to say it but matchmaking is not as good as it seems. I've had nothing but bad experiences since they introduced matchmaking to the weekly heroic for example. - I have not had one single team or teammate talk in game chat. - most of the time one or more person just sits at spawn afk, sometimes they never return forcing me to either solo the mission or abort and try my luck again with randoms. - sometimes they troll you. There are many ways to troll, I won't list them all but a couple are; trying to run you over with their sparrow, popping a ward of dawn bubble when you have rockets equip, t-bagging you when you're dead and not reviving you. - I've had players decide to stop helping during a boss battle, just hide and wait for their rewards. - I've had people quit at any point of a match. -going back to my first point and one of the most important in my opinion, nobody talks in games chat. There's no communication or team work. Now tell me why that's a good idea in ANY game type, PVP or PVE? Maybe I've been extremely unlucky with the people I've been matched up with but as good as it sounds on paper, matchmaking does not deliver in reality. Basically either you find reliable, dedicated, decent players to complete activities with or you're screwed in Destiny. Using the recruitment section is hit or miss. I've met great people and I've had blabber mouth teens that never stop arguing, can't take advice and are terrible at the game. Whether the OP was talking about matchmaking or not I believe I made valid points in an argument against it.
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3 RepliesI agree. Regardless of the systems, mm, lfg or clans, they need to be built into and easily accessible in-game. You should not have to spend 40 minutes outside the game trying to group for content.
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Bump. Optional matchmaking for every activity in the game just like Halo: Reach had.
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Yeah. Game just needs some kind of in-game toggle option to help people find groups fast.
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4 RepliesHell yea optional match making in everything is by far and away the biggest need in game. Tell me your reason why not and you fall into the category of a pigeon playing chess. Seriously it's mostly optional match making already lol.
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What TTK needs: Split Screen Co-op Matchmaking for Nightfall (Why not already, idk) and Raids where u can choose to run with Mic people or without mic people.
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Well put agree - in game OMM/LFG integrated smoothly with both xbl and psn features is a must.
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Hell yea optional match making in everything is by far and away the biggest need in game. Tell me your reason why not and you fall into the category of a pigeon playing chess. Seriously it's mostly optional match making already lol.
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1 Replyagree
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agreed. with the title. didn't read the post but i agree with the title
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Bump!
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Amen!
