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Edited by amanfeard:
6/21/2015 7:29:15 PM
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THORN... 50% to 75% reduction!!!
Destiny and it's large expansive game has been reduced to the THORN in every serious competitive game play!WHY!? It has taken away from all the fun playing in such a diverse universe,and reduced it down to a cubicle size of game play! With all of the weapons and weapon diversities it still always comes down to the THORN!!! PLEASE BUNGIE reduce the THORN by 50-70% and bring back the uniqueness of our individual characters DESTINY!! NOT EVERYONE wants to be exactly like every body else! Make us feel like our individual choices and load outs can be appreciated in this awesome experience and let us fulfill our own personal DESTINY!
After receiving so many delightful responses I am responding with this universal concept. All maxed out guns having same damage per second, delivered in various ways. Extended out to damage per 2 seconds or what have you! Just a thought!
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Agreed. Better just to put back Thorn the way it originally was before it was buffed far too much. It's proven to be much more of an annoyance in PVP than remotely anything good. It needs to be put back to how it was for how much it's destroyed PVP. The nerf coming up for it feels like a joke
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Agree completely Takes fun right out of it sometimes
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11 RepliesI'm extremely sick of hearing all this bitching and moaning about Thorn. For christs sake, I played iron banner all day yesterday and saw literally 2 players using thorn the entire time. The rest of the time it was full teams using blink and shotguns. Stop crying about thorn, and start crying about them buffing auto rifles again. If they fixed auto rifles, people will stop using hand cannons over everything else. Problem solved!
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1 ReplyThorn is annoying in the hand of a good player. Luckily 90% of people that use it are not good enough to accuratly hit two shots and can be beaten with an auto rifle.
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It's not gonna change until Sept, so use it. It just takes swallowing your pride and out Thorning a Thorn fanboy. They think they're so talented. Show them how easy it is.
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2 RepliesYou -blam!-ing whiny bitches need to shut up about Thorn already!!!! You suck so you can't get one!! So you'll just bitch about it!!
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7 RepliesAm I the only one that uses the scholar every once and a while?
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1 ReplyEdited by delta092: 7/3/2015 11:41:04 AMTotally right. Thorn is my favourite weapon in the game but is totally op. I did good marches before buff... Dont know why they buffed it. I think it should be a 3 headshoot/ 4 OR 5 bodyshoot to kill ( like it was before ). OR at least, leave the damage as it is now and reduce highly the stability
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1 ReplyIt is sad that out of hundreds of different weapons in the game, almost everyone uses one of two ridiculously overpowered hand cannons. Damn shame.
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5 RepliesEdited by XxRock DieselxX: 7/3/2015 10:55:38 AMHell at this rate I'd be happy if they Nerf the messenger. Why make trials weapons 2 burst but not and iron banner weapon? Both PvP. Both hard. Yet we wait a whole month for the banner. Either that give banner weapons a buff Literally no reason to do IB if the guns can't compete with trials gear
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1 ReplyLol.......get a thorn dude.
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3 RepliesRemember when thorn did 3 dmg per tic, had 6 in the mag, and had a 5 second reload time? And it was still good. If the dot was reduced to 3, thorn would still be good.
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1 ReplyReduce the thorn 50-70%...in what, like size or...? Kinda vague there
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I think a -10% would be better. 50% is a lot. Actually you need 2 headshots, or ~4 body shots. Do you really want handcannons to 4 headshoot? Or 8x body shot? Some handcannons dont even have 8 bullets. So dont cry like a baby, the Thorn is a good weapon. But other weapons are good as well!
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Plz listen to this. If u still feel the way you do he has a part 2 to this.
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2 RepliesHonestly,I think a simple and fair fix would be to make the burn time range based. E.G. If you're close quarters,it'll last the full extent,and if you're at long range,say scout rifle/sniper range,the burn time is significantly less
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1 ReplyLet me guess.. you don't have Thorn
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Scrub
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2 RepliesEasy fix: bring the poison down to 5 damage/tick instead of 7. That way it will still be usable, but not a crutch gun anymore.
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They should jus make the thorn poison damage available for hive,cabal,vex,nd fallen. Not on crucible
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No where does it say u need to use thorn hell i restarted a Warlock. Lvl 13 mind u so i couldnt use thorn. Played in the crucible and still kicked ass. With a scout rifle. U know one of the other guns in the game. So quit whining. Now I'm thinking again thiugh so i hope i see you in the cruc.
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Dude, the thorn is the best sniper in the game!
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2 RepliesPart of the problem with this is how guns are so fundamentally different from each other. Initial accuracy, overall accuracy, stability, aim-assist bonuses (and all the other sub skills in each gun that affect damage, stability, reload) etc. all play a part in how much damage is landed on target and where. For example, an auto rifle with perfect stability will trump an auto rifle with bad stability with equal DPS. Bungie needs to find the right balance between guns for the sake of diversity, and it's much more technical than damage parity, but they've also got access to the numbers to get this done, and they said they will...in mid-September, apparently...
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1 ReplyI don't pride myself in being a phenomenonal Crucible player, and I don't enjoy running into Iron Banner matches vs 6 Thorns (I've had it since before HoW but don't use it out of principle) , however, I don't think Thorn needs the nerf hammer. Should the DoT be tweaked? Oh hell yes, but even with around a 1.5 k/D I can easily out-gun Thorn users. With this said, in order to appease the masses, My proposal: reduce the damage done by the DoT on Thorn to an amount where it would take 3 headshots and 4 body shots on a full health Guardian. This would mean you could still take advantage of the DoT (especially on low heath guardians), but it would remove the "meltiness" of the gun.
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1 ReplyWe say bungie pls buff thorn. They buff thorn. Bungie pls nerf thorn. We say bungie buff shotguns. They buff shotguns. Bungie pls Nerf shotguns. The list continues...
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Thorn was literally built for pvp.
