Fact. It's not fun at all. All the previous waves we had fun. Skolas is utter trash. My team quit after 4 hours of bashing our heads. The pve rewards don't compare to pvp. People go flawless and get so much shit, we beat skolas and get some cores and one etheric light. That's Pathetic.

If you are having difficulty taking him down during the first minute, I suggest trying to do it the long way, starting by rotating left to get to the far right upper corner after the titan bubble goes away. After that, focus exclusively on adds and mines until the adds are low and the mines are gone. The two working on adds pass the poison and then hand it off to the mine diffuser when that person gets back. Then, focus on skolas again until the next round of adds/mines, then finish off skolas. Just stay in communication to pass the poison. Call out grenades if you see them! I found that was the biggest cause of wipes. Unlike the more freewheeling style of the other POE boss fights I found the skolas fight requires more of a choreographed approach, like with Atheon or Crota. If you approach it from that angle it may work out better.

It's easy if you have 365 arc snipers...spear with final round

*pulls out Scorch Cannon* kneel before the Kell of Kells!

If it's too easy people complain. If it's too hard people still complain. Bungie keep it hard and make the upcoming more difficult I want to feel like I've earned my victory. If I don't have the correct weapon I search and scour until I do. I like this system with the etheric light it makes it so weapons that became useless now become relevant it give us a real reason to re do raids instead of just going for some exotic loot. It's saying to reach this lv you must beat all the previous with flying colors. If your going to accept the hardest pve has to offer you have to make sure you're up to par. Why should you be carried ? It's a team effort if everyone knows what there doing they succeed if they don't you fail. Practice guardian, practice.

Definitely not AS bad as the Qodron that just ticks me off

YOUR NOT THE REAL CHUCK NORRIS GIT GUD SCRUB

Once I got the shader and ship ect from skolas I decided not to waste my time even doing the 35 more than once a week. The pve community is shit now. Majority of players suck dick. And I grew tired of carrying people through the 35 encounters. The problem lies is the fact you're splitting into a group of 3 instead of six. And since the majority of the time in raids 2 people are carrying 4 in a 3 person environment it exploits weaknesses of players who wouldn't even be noticed during a raid. ( ya know..those guys who end up with 15 kills after an hour in CE. ) Keep in mind too...a lot of these players [b]have sub 8% pve raid kds [/b]. Slow reaction time on skolas. .. Wipe Can't snipe well? ... Wipe No gjally on solar burn and can't use a sniper properly?... Wipe Didn't bring heavy synths? Wipe Don't know how to manage a single debuff mechanic?.. wipe Tldr. Teams of three are killing what to me could have been a sweet 6 person encounter with more mechanics thrown at you. The areas are big enough and the bosses have enough health. ( go figure )

I agree with your post. I'd just like to add (not because you didn't say it- just that it can't be said enough), THE REWARD SYSTEM IN PoE is an F'N JOKE! So not worth my time to be on 8 fireteams and get NOT-A-THING out of beating Skolas. NOTHING. Key drop rates are a joke. Item drops from winning are non existent. Bungie's speed at fixing these problems? "Ah ha. Ah ha ha. Ah ha ha ha...." *edit- to be fair, I did get my freekin' shader and ship. That'll really improve my game play experience.....

I've given it a shot three times with three separate groups, for about six hours in total. I just don't give a -blam!- anymore. It's a bullshit fight across the board. I understand it's beatable - I've seen the videos that make it look like a hilarious cake walk - but it's egregiously skewed against the player fireteam to a level that isn't sporting or fair. Even if it wasn't an arbitrarily-designated level over the current maximum level, even if we weren't playing Arc Burn against Fallen who ALL shoot Arc weapons, the mission is full of convoluted bullshit mechanics with these Servitor Bonds, the hot potato poison Essence crap, and then a phase of having to go out into the open and dismantle mines in indefensible positions. It's a lot. Most of it is bullshit and unfair. It's not sporting. It's not fun. So I'm not throwing anymore time at it. It's not worth the frustration and the bonds of my fireteam unraveling at an interpersonal level because someone at Bungie thought this would be a good challenge. It's just standing in the place where actual challenge should be.

I have to agree with this on several levels. I like good challenge that makes me a better player. Problem with Skolas is it feels cheap rather than being a legitimate challenge. The whole PoE feels filled with cheap tactics. To be clear, I enjoy the PoE...but there are some things I find myself shaking my head about. You're spot on about the rewards too. I don't know of a single PoE weapon right now that feels amazing in my hands. Each time I compare them to others I have it seems the older weapons were stronger with better perks. When you played past raids...each has its "must have" guns. Fatebringer...Vision of Confluence....Black Hammer....Hunger of Crota. All amazing weapons that we treasured once we got them. What does PoE have? Nothing I can recall other than the slim chance you'll get an exotic bounty to get the new exotic weapons. The fact that the only new exotics fall on chance in PoE feels incredibly cheap too. To be clear...I think it's great that there are exotic challenges tied to PoE...but ALL new exotic weapons? Come on...... Let's not forget too that the only way you can have a shot at these PoE 'rewards' is by grinding out treasure keys. When you consider that people spend hours farming for keys that might not even drop for them, it makes the reward that much more underwhelming when you consider what the Trials of Osiris gets you (not bashing Trials...it's great the PvP crowd gets rewarded handsomely) I kept playing Atheon until I figured it out. I kept playing Crota until I figured him out too. This is the first time I don't feel motivation to complete something because it just doesn't feel worth it. I'm not going to complete 35 Skolas this week and I know many in my clan that feel the same way too. Just not worth the effort with no pay out. It doesn't help I can't even continue should our fireteam get tired.

Their is nothing in HoW that is worth it. This dlc has driven away more players than it has gained. Even the fourms are flat out quiter than they used to be

If the POE had checkpoints it would be a much better experience. I dont really want to fight Skolas. I have the weapons, the level, and the ability, but it just doesn't appeal to me.I want to do something fun and not something that angers the group. by the end of the POE your drained because of all the cheap mechanics in the previous levels that you need to take a break, but you cant because there aren't any checkpoints. What's the point anyways? To get a ship, or a shader? i dont have enough vault space to care about any new weapons. The queens chest rewards are a joke considering you get exotics you might already have and weapons that are carbon cut outs out vanguard and crucible weapons.The only thing that makes them unique is they are pink and purple. Why is everything pink and purple in this game? Besides the queen's weapons, a large number of the shaders are shades of pinks, purples and blues. Why can't there be black and red combos? Green and orange? Why do it have to grind 50 ranks in dead orbit to possibly get a decent shader? Why am i going to POE when the rewards are trivial? If i need etheric light i'd rather grind in the iron banner and buy it. That's more fun then fighting a boss that locks you in a detainment bubble you can only break out of if you kill the eye, that sometimes doesn't spawn. If they are wondering why everyone gally's the end bosses as fast as possible, it's because they are sick and tired of being in the damn POE they just want to get it over with. All in all, Destiny succeeds as a shooter, but fails as a MMO/ RPG. Now we just have to wait and see what there next move is. I dont hate the game, i still play it all the time because i enjoy PVP and certain aspects of PVE, but i need better rewards for doing harder things and the RNG system is the worst thing i've dealt with in any video game, ever. I wonder what they will do at E3.

I thought Chuck Norris would just beat Skolas down with Qodron.