Thank you for making me famous, Bungie community. Lol at all the kids crying. I love Bungie forums, hasn't changed since the Halo days. I've made valid points for 3 different Handcannons, which all you scrubs who roll Handcannons will oversee due to the fact all you see is "NERF Handcannons." If you don't read this post, you automatically become irrelevant when you reply. No -blam!-ing surprise to see EVERYONE roll HANDCANNONS in Crucible. 2 shots, easiest kills in the game, everyone can get it for sucking! *cough* The Thorn *cough* Yeah, ban me. Fix your mistake, aka buff auto-rifles, or NERF range on a hip fired weapon *cough* Last Word *cough* which Xur just sold to all noobs. Good job, Bungie. Half the -blam!-ing artards can't even complete the bounty for thorn and ask for help, and then face roll seasoned players from across the map. Not once in this topic have a seen a valid point how HCs are balanced. More or less it's salty HC users flaming me for being right, and trying to NERF their only hope. Everyone who flames me in this topic, simply rolls thorn, or something just as gay. :) PS: I roll Monte Carlo, so bite me. (Let me clear this up for all you under 16 who don't understand, and for everyone older than 16, I thought you'd know better, tsk tsk salty scrubs.) NERF Thorn's range OR damage (This gun can kill you in 2 shots, in less then a second, I've tested it.) As it should not be able to snipe people across the map. Meaning the KS'ers who camp in the corner of the map, and hope they spot someone. Other than that, I'll -blam!-ing face roll you with my AR, face to face, okay bbygrl? (This is also the most easily obtainable HC. All you have to do is play. I would understand if this was more or less a hard-mode raid drop, or PoE 35 drop, seriously, for how good it is.) Hawkmoon is rather balanced, no complaints here, I even use it sometime when I wanna roll Handcannons. (Even though you can have one bullet double buffed, and kill a player in 1 shot, literally.) TLW needs to be nerfed, as it should not have as much range or "accuracy" while hip-fired. I understand the concept, but tone it down. I hope this clarifies what I'm talking about for you intolerable imbeciles, learn to read, and learn what sarcasm is. I'll destroy your ass in crucible, KDRs do not mean shit to a lot of people. For all I know you hid invisible with a HCs. That's what I'm going to assume if you mention anything about KDRs. I've shut down everyone in this thread. Ty bbygrls.