Edit: I dont suck with TLW. I am good with TLW. I almost always dominate in Crucible with TLW. TLW is my favorite weapon. I am not some butthurt kid, this is not one of those posts.
Edit 2: This has nothing to do with Xur. TLW has been this way for months. I'm only posting this now because Trials of Osiris is on the way.
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Majority of you play PvE more then PvP. (And that's great I love PvE, I love PvP more.)
And most of the people who actually do play PvP suck at it. Those people who suck at it usually can't use TLW to it's full potential.
The fact that majority of you can't and never will understand how powerful TLW is in PvP bothers me, cause that means it might never get a nerf.
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The minority, are the [b][u]skilled[/u][/b] players who play this game very competitively (and usually stomp everyone in the Crucible).
However, if two very [u][b]skilled/smart[/b][/u] players or teams happen to match up and one of those players/teams chooses to use the TLW, from my experience, if the opposing player/team chooses to use any other weapon other then TLW (or maybe a Thorn) that person or team is at a disadvantage. Ultimately, the person who is not using the TLW will eventually switch to it (or Thorn, but I personally think TLW is stronger then the Thorn. TLW has a faster time to kill).
This has happened to some people so many time that these "skilled/smart" players don't even feel the need to use any other weapons. They just go into the crucible using what they know to be the most reliable, and probably strongest weapon in the game.
We shouldn't be forced to use a certain weapons just to make it an even playing field.
[spoiler]If you weren't expected to get killed by TLW in .5 seconds over and over again in the Trials of Osiris, expect it now, because that is what will happen.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Keep in mind that even though I used the word minority, that doesn't necessarily mean that this minority of players is a small amount of players. There are quiet a lot of Destiny players who are very good at Crucible and have adopted this type of play.[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesI play PvP and you are wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. NO NERFS. If I can stay almost entirely positive KD against TLW ANYONE CAN. Stop asking the game come down to your level and you step it up and quit asking for mediocrity.
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Nope, I just think that auto rifles need a slight buff to make weapons balanced.
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1 ReplyLets just nerf everything! !! But wait then people will complain about everything getting nerfed!!!!! Wtf !!!!!
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2 RepliesShut up with all the nerf talk. Crucible needs buffs not nerfs.
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It already has an amazing small magazine, and that coupled with fan fire makes getting 2-3 kills with it hard. [spoiler]no nerf needed [/spoiler]
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2 RepliesBut. The gun is unique. They would have to change the entire gun or mess up all cannons. Yes in the crucible it's Frustrating when facing it. But it will die down once people see other weapons at their disposal. Not to mention other alterations to weapons in the future. Just let it go man...
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1 ReplyNerfers need a nerf.
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It's meh from a distance started using it today
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Edited by JingZeh: 4/26/2015 11:05:04 PMIt actually can't out gun everything, MiDa, Red Death, Bad Juju just to name a few.
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Want =/= need. Try again.
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2 RepliesWhat is TLW? Strange I don't know about this weapon and I must not have it either. But, with everything else, I'm set!
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Http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/introducingthe-scrub/ Just gonna leave this here. OP please read, might make you a better person ;)
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It's frustrating how many similar posts there are about *insert gun here. This shit is old and if they "balance" HCs there will be the next OP gun. Rinse repeat and the cycle of whinging and crying begins again. THAT is what is frustrating for the majority of players who don't touch PVP
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They should take ALL exotics out of competitive PVP mode, or at least have a game mode with no exotics. IMO the exotic perks are meant for PVE only. Iron Banner has caused so much grief and has caused unnecessary nerfs for PVE, because of the exotics such as the Suros being over used and over powered. Same with TLW, Thorn and Red Death etc.
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Yeah let's just nerf everything until everything is balanced and everything can kill at equal rates and all guns are fundamentally the same. This isn't battlefield. There needs to be a best gun.
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My timur's lash out guns it every time.
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ITS A HAND CANNON! It's auto and it packs a punch Just imaging the freaking tommy gun .45 caliber bullets and fully automatic. It's beast if you know how to control it.
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5 RepliesEdited by DecrepitDragon: 4/26/2015 4:15:41 PMWait.. *checks profile* [i]"It's not about the gun. It's the way you use it... "[/i] That's your bio on your activity page. Seems a bit contradictory don't you think?
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9 RepliesWhat's frustrating is coming on the forums to see a bunch of pricks bitch and moan about all the "op" weapons that shit on them in crucible. Instead of acting like the entire -blam!-ing crucible is broken bc one guy outgunned your pathetic ass, why don't you go change your tampon and learn how to be good in crucible.
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Sooooo, what if I can outgun it with Bad Juju?
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3 RepliesEdited by Ninja with no L: 4/26/2015 8:54:48 PMThe best way to "nerf" TLW would be to fix the bonus damage that you procure on occasion while aiming. Then we could actually see how the gun was supposed to be like. Thorn shouldn't have an increased range mod... Hand cannons are not meant to hit highly assisted headshots from range that rivals scout rifles imo.
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I prefer thorn in sweaty matches. They both need a balance patch though.
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Thorn can outgunn it, especially at mid+ Unless u played players who can't aim, tlw won't win most of the tiime unless up close
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Every reply here makes me facepalm... "It's an exotic!" "Nerf the nerfers!" "Git gud!" This what happens when free crucible points get on Bungie forums
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I just want to be able to use other hand cannons
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Ive outgunned heavys before but its utter shit in pve buff pve version