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Edited by FLYING V:
1/31/2015 7:43:38 AM
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MUST READ: Remove Phantom Gift on Word of Crota
I know a lot of you dearly love your new Word of Crota hand cannon you rightfully earned by killing Crota on Hard, but hear me out. THIS WEAPON IS BROKEN. The Word's unique perk, Phantom Gift (3 rapid head shots return 1 round to mag), is not only a mediocre perk at best but it is also broken by both Hive Disruptor (Increased damage to Majors) and the Explosive a Rounds perk. This a bug that Bungie saw coming due to the White Nail bug and made no effort to fix it preemptively.
I think the best solution would be to scrap the Phantom gift perk completely rather than rework the other 2 perks that break it.
Bump, like, or reply this post if you want your hard-earned handcannon to be the monster it should be.
TL;DR
Word of Crota is broken, let's make Bungie get rid of the broken perk on it that is bad even when it does work.
EDIT: IF YOU DISAGREE, ALL MEANS EXPLAIN WHY YOU BELIEVE SO; I ONLY ASK THAT YOU DO NOT REPLY WITH OVERSIMPLIFIED OR DOWNRIGHT STUPID REBUTTALS.
Edit 2: I'm saying Bungie should remove Phantom Gift and replace it with a fully functional perk.
Edit 3: thanks for the support guys. Hopefully together we can make this weapon better.
[b]Replacement perk idea[/b]
[b]Shrieker Blast[/b]
-[b]precision kills with this weapon activate a mini shrieker death blast that tracks nearby enemies. [/b]
it would function similar to firefly, but would do less damage and have increased range in addition to a brief stagger animation when it connects on nearby enemies.
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That shrieker blast idea sounds amazing. Almost too good lol
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Bump, honestly the perk phantom gift isn't very good. Consider how much better the weapon would be with just outlaw instead. Why the extra couple bullets for 3 precisions when a single kill with a precision can skyrocket the reload speed.
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I'd like to see something similar to the black hammers "Reward for high skill/ punishment for failure" approach. I think it would be cool if they took the mag size down to like 5 or six rounds, but for each crit you get your round back. Or something similar that is only borderline OP in the hands of someone skilled. And maybe a higher rate of fire to go with it. That way it could compete with fatebringer. I can only hope :(
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Edited by Orpheo: 1/26/2015 7:16:47 PMI would be happy with crowd control or luck in the chamber. But since most raid weapons have a specific hive related perk. I like the Shrieker blast idea or maybe a precision shot kill summons a poison cloud for a few seconds similar to what wizards use. it wouldnt do alot of damage so it wouldnt belittle trashochasm. However it would be great for crowd control, be unique, and adds additional AOE damage.
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The shrieker blast is op i shat myself. Its so op i gave a shit
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I think your idea is good for the replacement but I doubt they'll implement it. What if instead a precision kill instantly brought back your bullet to the mag, and spawn a vortex grenade where the target died?
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10 RepliesDon't use explosive rounds... On any weapon... Ever. It's a total garbage perk that subtracts total damage to create splash. For what, exactly? So nearby enemies have a sliver of energy removed? Speed reload or hammer forged are your only real choices in that tree.
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3 Replies[quote][b]Replacement perk idea[/b] [b]Shrieker Blast[/b] -[b]precision kills with this weapon activate a mini shrieker death blast that tracks nearby enemies. [/b] it would function similar to firefly, but would do less damage and have increased range in addition to a brief stagger animation when it connects on nearby enemies.[/quote] Handcannon with Wolfpack round? I can dig it.
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Explosive rounds screw up all precision based perks.
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Such a pointless perk
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3 RepliesYou can have your WoC, I'll keep my Fatebringer
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21 RepliesDude the Word of Crota is a third string hand cannon at best. You need to land 3 headshots, which against a moving target is not easy, it's a half assed black hammer perk. at most you can get 4 extra shots, that's including the extra bullets from the perk. This is more of a I got killed by a weapon so it needs to be nerfed
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7 RepliesShould make it to 3 hits not precision hits.
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I like the shieker blast idea but I would just prefer firefly. Only because making a new perk like that and getting it to work right might take some time.
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3 RepliesGive it the option to swap phantom gift for firefly like hip/focused fire on the auto
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I completely agree with this and that death blast idea is the type of shiz that dreams are made of. #bungiehirethisman
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1 ReplyThe replacement perk you mentioned would be pretty cool. Too bad Bungie doesn't seem to really listen to suggestions. But congrats to all who got Word of Crota, I received Fang of Ir Yut three times.
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Please remove it and add firefly. That would be the best solution to keep it on par with previous raid weapons
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I really like that shrieker blast idea, especially since it's already a void gun. I'm trying to like the Word, but it's fighting me. I hate the sight, and the gun is very "fat" with all the scales on it. When you line up a head shot it completely covers the enemies' body, making it really tough to readjust when the kick pushes the gun up. Fatebringer feels much better. As it stands now, Word is only going to come out for Nightfalls and the Undying Mind strike. I'm still waiting to get my hands on the Fang.
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1 ReplyEdited by Swiftlock: 1/26/2015 12:36:23 PMJust give it Glass Half Full instead of Phantom Gift. That'd make it a real boss slayer.
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1 Replyreplace with firefly bump the crap out of this
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2 RepliesYou can't exactly claim that the weapon is broken due to the fact that you chose to use a perk that is known to interfere with other crit-based perks, especially when you have the option to change the perk to one that wouldn't cause interference. If you want to make the most of the Phantom Gift perk, use the Sped Reload or Hand Loaded perks. If you're not that concerned with whether it procs or not and just want to deal the extra area damage, then use Explosive Rounds, but please don't complain about a perk combo that everyone already knows is hit or miss. That being said, I agree it still needs to be fixed. Make an adjustment to the code that either adds the explosion damage directly to the critical damage, or makes it so that the explosion damage doesn't affect the primary target and Crit damage isn't reduced. For your suggested perk. I think it's awesome! Though I'd like to tweak it a little more to bring it in like with current Guardian abilities. "[b]Phantom Blast:[/b] Precision kills produce mini seekers. Enemies killed by seekers explode." So: Boom! Headshot. Seeker Radius expands and marks one/two enemies, then the Seekers track them and explode for *Half damage of a normal Axion Bolt Grenade, enemies killed would explode as if the "Bloom" perk were augmenting the Axion Bolt. This would use a function that already exists in-game and would be somewhat simpler to produce while still being incredibly useful.
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Love the shrieker blast idea.
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1 ReplyI love your replacement perk idea! And yes I do believe the special perk on this weapon is broken.
