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Edited by LordofChaos:
1/23/2015 10:23:06 PM
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They don't have to fix it ever, you are not meant to collect and hoard all items in the game.
it is not the #1 and wont be either just because it is too you. so you can continue to hoard more things.
the game is not all about getting and holding that gear indefinitely, it is about getting gear and making choices on what you need compared to what you want and then discarding what you don't actually need. but players like you seem to fail to understand this simple concept of reality.
edit: to everyone constantly replying to me thinking if this is kept at the top it will make them consider it more or do it sooner you fail to understand no it will not ever do so. they will decide if they want too and when, no matter what anyone here says ever to me or anyone else about this. They do not have to do so ever if they choose not too, no matter what you think or feel ever.
edit: those who disagree and think it HAS to be done, YOU fail, for nothing has to be done just because the players want it to be done ever. Just because you want it does not make it needed ever. Nor do they have to give it to you or let you play the game expressly how you want ever. YOU do not control them you only control if YOU play the game that is all.
edit: those who insult thinking your cute.. you really are and I find it amusing you think it bothers me in fact I laugh each time and show my family and friends and they laugh at the ensuing immaturity shown by players on these forums.
edit: YOU are a cupcake and always will be. YOU never will be the snowflake you think you were meant to be ever. Nor do they have to let you be either ever.
edit: tough if you want it, they dont have to give it to you just because you want it. what is wanted is never needed ever no matter how you try and say so otherwise for what ever reason or excuse you try to give ever. tough if you dont like that either.
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Edited by TPoppaPuff: 1/21/2015 9:48:07 AMIf that was the case then why even go through all that? If [i]that[/i] was their design, there should only be one gun of each class that you level the entire game at which point you unlock more options to customize it and use the perks that you've unlocked once you reach a certain experience with that gun. Even by your (ir)rationale, they still messed up. The truth is they made a game where you're supposed to collect things, but then don't give you enough room to collect things because they don't want to spend the extra $5,000 a year on servers to give the 3 million players double or triple the inventory despite charging exorbitant amounts of money for the amount of content we were given. No matter how you try to spin it, that's what happened. No excuses that you make can change that.
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Now you begin to think realistically and understand that no matter what players want it still may not ever happen nor do they ever have to either just because players want them too. You are meant to collect some, not all.
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And now you begin to finally catch on and admitting that they messed up no matter how you look at it. Whether they fix it or don't fix it, none of us really know. The fact is, they messed up.
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In over all design yes and no. they made a game that emulates many game styles which lead to many people thinking it was to be like that specific game style more because that is what they liked. this was not a true mess up for it was a calculated risk to draw in as many players as possible knowing many would not stay over time for they would not like the overall design of the game. this game is a mashup and never was going to be just an mmo, or rpg or fps and have the features more specific to each of those kinds of games more commonly seen in those games. the mess is in the players expecting it to be more like one game more than another and then thinking they were ever going to get the dev to make it so. (not finally catching on, have known this from day one of playing the game)
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Well in this case no matter the genre or hybrid genre it has a strong loot focused component and it is definitely not a survival horror game so the lack of adequate inventory for said loot is just bad game design. I don't think it's fair to blame the gamers for expecting good game design or for expecting Bungie to eventually fix the problems with this game. Of course, instead of fixing the game they focus all their time on fixing "cheeses" in raids rather than the actually frustrating to the player bugs and glitches and issues with the game.
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they fix cheeses because everyone cheeses if less cheesed they they would focus more on other things. They do not have to let players cheese just because they want to because they don't like how the loot system works. And even thought the game has a loot system does not mean it is the main part of the game ever. Nor does it require more attention to it just because some think so. the players are not expecting fair game play they are expecting to get what they want and never have to make a choice ever. They want their cake and ice cream and to eat it too and that is now how it will work in this game ever. You dont always get everything you want all the time in life.
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That's not an excuse for misplaced priorities. There are too many legitimate issues that they should be focusing on rather than the cheeses. More people have stopped playing Destiny because the bigger issues have not been addressed, including inventory space, bugs, lack of content, etc, than the number of people cheesing raids. It is a main part of the game. That is irrefutable. All progress in the game after level 20 is dependent on loot. A game in which Bungie said doesn't even start until you hit level twenty. Their words. Explain to me how it can be a loot dependent game yet the loot is not a main part of the game. The players are expecting a fair game. What players want is a fair game. They have not received a fair game. Maybe that's the problem. If people just accept it as an unfair game that's poorly designed then there would be a lot less complaining.
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It an excuse and the only one they ever have to give no matter if players like it or not. They do not have to allow or tolerate cheater in their game at all. and since they have chosen not to, it is of high importance to stop it as much as possible. It is not the main part of the game and all progress is not 100 dependent upon loot. Your light level is but not what you do otherwise. You dont have to do the raids if you choose not too. You can still play the game and never do the raid ever, so never need the higher light level. Still does not mean you were ever meant to collect it hold it all. It is about the choices made, the items kept and those tossed away and the consequences of those choice both good and bad. they do not have to make the game fair or balanced for everyone in how it works and what you get out of it or keep for your time playing it.
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Well whether you like it or not that's still a poor decision and a poor excuse for what has been to this point terribly misguided, wasted efforts of development resources. Instead of fixing the game or making the game user friendly, they're fixing cheeses while the game stays broken and unbalanced (in truth Crucible at this point is a completely lost cause). Cheesing isn't cheating. 100% of all progress after level twenty is dependent on loot. You have to have gear and guns. They decide your progress in the game and dictate what level you are. Those are the loot. Lol so now your argument is that it is not a loot game because even though progress is dependent on loot, you're saying you shouldn't progress either? Regardless of the raids, progress is dependent on loot. Not loot from the raids; that only currently affects the very very end of progress. Progress as a whole past level twenty depends on loot. You can't even hold some. Some is more than the spaces you're currently allotted. Strikes and certain enemies requires different types of damage especially nightfalls so you must have those in your inventory. Per weapon type. And pvp, as broken as it is, requires a different set of weapons better suited for it, and that's assuming you only play one style without deviation on map, loadout, class, etc. Further you can only equip one exotic at a time so you must carry legendaries. The current inventory/vault is insufficient for properly carrying all necessary equipment necessary for all variety of games. Essentially you are saying people shouldn't be able to play every week because not being properly equipped is part of the fun of the game. And that's even before addressing the issue of picking up weapons engrams. OK, so at this point you're just admitting that the game is poorly designed and saying deal with it. So be it. The game is badly designed so there's neither any point in you defending it and the poor decisions they have made. Thanks. I'm pretty sure you've made your point.
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Im sorry you don't like playing the game :(
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I do play the game, but I dont hoard nor need to nor is it needed to play the game or have fun either.
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Edited by Coyote_x_Starrk: 1/20/2015 11:36:04 AMDepends on your playstyle. If it were not a big deal it would not be the single most requested thing in the game. So don't presume to tell others how to play their game. You don't want it? Thats fine. How does other people wanting it affect you? Why does it matter if they get it? It doesn't. So shut up and move on to a topic that actually matters to you.
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It is not the the single most requested thing in the game at all. Don't assume to tell me how to speak on the forums either. It is not needed, it is only wanted there is a difference. And not all wants should be given in to by the developers ever. I don't have to shut up or move on, just because you want me too.
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Whatsbthe most requested thing in the game by you? Gjallahorn?
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Nothing for I can play the game with waht I have and still do well. I dont need any one thing more than anyone else. I dont just rely on items in the game to do well. It is called learning the game and understanding it and using your skill with what you have to your best, not needing something else to hold your hand for you.
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[quote]I don't have to shut up or move on, just because you want me too.[/quote] You don't [i]have[/i] to, but you should. [spoiler]Because you're wrong.[/spoiler]
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Not wrong you dolt, you just hope I am and if I turns out I am not then what. Going to cry to mommy that big bad developer would not let you have your toys and keep them...
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Nah. You're definitely wrong. You're acting like a baby and don't have an argument behind your reasoning other than blindly following whatever happens to be the case at the time. If it was 40 vault spots and somebody asked to knock it down to twenty you would act like an insane child just like you are now saying they should keep it the way it is.
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I am not acting like a baby those that are crying that it does not have extra vault space are the ones acting like entitlement minded children fo the me first generation. Actually your wrong, they could cut it down to 10 total and would not bother me at all. and I mean 10 for everything weapons, consumables, armor all of it.
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Nevermind don't bother responding. Just had the misfortune of seeing the rest of your responses to other peoples comments. You just seem to either be a troll or just a jackass. Not gonna waste my time any further. I will send you a message telling you I told you so when more vault space is added.
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And if they never do. I will not even ever need to message you for in the back of your head you will see my words. "told you so"
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Edited by Coyote_x_Starrk: 1/20/2015 11:59:44 AMSo then answer this. Why the hell does it matter to you whether or not people get it. It does not affect you in any way whatsoever. Why go out of your way to make an asinine post that is completely pointless about a topic that has literally no downside for anyone that plays this game and not just make the post after that you continue making pointless arguments like an imbecile countless times when people disagree with you. I can't tell if you are just a troll or an idiot.
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I can tell you It's a waste of dev time to add more space that will get filled and have the same people in the forms saying "there still isn't enough space in my vault, add more" +20 to your vault "Still don't have enough space in my vault, add more" +40 to your vault "Still don't have enough......" When does it end? The answer: it never does Work with the space you have 20 + (30 • x) = y 20 for your vault 30 weapon slots per character X = number of characters (1-3) Y = number of weapon slots you have available (50-110) The total count of both exotic and legendary weapons should come out to 107 (Xbox) 110 (psn) That's enough space for one of each exotic and one of each legendary weapon
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Edited by Lukeuntld072_: 1/22/2015 2:57:42 AMWhat about engrams then? I have to pick one by the postmaster go to the cryptarch then dismantle it. Go back to the postmaster get another engram en so on. Think of that? U also have to (collect engrams)
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You do not really have to collect them for you do not have to level the crypt-arch he is there if you wish too and to decode what you find, but you do not have to collect to lvl him ever. And for that you just keep a couple spaces open and that is not hard to do if you are not trying to hoard everything else all the time.
