I'd be happy if Deej stopped speaking in ryhmes and riddles leaving us to guess amongst ourselves as to what the hell he's referring to half the time. Its so simple. "Hey guys, this upcoming month we are working on these issues, (lists issues), after reading through the forums we have decided that these need the most attention." Instead we get. " hello guardians, back at bungie HQ were circle jerking each other off as fast as possible while having out intern Greg fix all the raid glitches (he doesn't know much). Anyways we got some cool stuff planned in the future, I could tell you but......that's a story for another time"

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Deej response Hey, Thanks for the feedback. I can tell you right now that our team specifically trained to improve our ever-changing and adapting game, has already heard you. And I can tell you I've passed along many ideas to our creative board, ideas from you guys. Keep throwing your important feedback out there, as we all hear you. Keep trudging through the darkness guardians. Translation: Listen, shut up. I'm too busy writing this weekly update that no one cares about. No one reads your posts, but that's because we don't care what our playerbase says. There's no such thing as a creativity board. I hope you wipe on the nightfall.

[quote] Please don't call me a politician for valuing your input, and for saying so. Your chatter helps me do my job, and invigorates our development process with additional voices. I know you want a window into our world, but imagine trying to do your job with millions of people looking over your shoulder. I need to maintain a safe environment where our people can take chances and innovate.[/quote] Hey Deej, (and everyone) I would just like to make the point that it is Bungie who decided to create a game that is meant to keep us busy for [b]10 years[/b]. Most of the other studios doing this very thing have a different approach to how they deal with their community. Take [b]Riot[/b] games for example. They are pushing out content much more often, and while I know they only have to worry about one platform. They understand the need to keep the community engaged with the development process. We even have access to a public beta environment which they use to test out ideas that (many times) don't ever make it into the game. If you have the idea of 'maintaining a safe environment' by not talking to the community at all about what truly bothers them, and not letting us 'peak in the window' for fear that your team cannot innovate, then[b] you have chosen the wrong type of game to develop[/b]. Companies like Riot are more than [b]transparent, innovating[/b] all the time (just look at their champ lineup from last year) and guess what?...... I played their [b]free game[/b] for over a year.... happily... constantly [b]spending money[/b].... and being happy about it. I occasionally stop back in and play a bit more after they made a bunch of changes. Now I sit and compare my feelings about this game. I pre-purchased the dlc.... and after a long fight in the VOG hard mode the weekend before.... (where I finally got my vog helm) ... the dark below dropped. After seeing the way this game treats my time (and apparently will continue to treat it with every dlc drop) by making my 'hard earned gear' useless, making me re-level everything etc..... I was extremely disappointed with this game that I was planning to spend a few years (and a bunch of cash) on. In fact... I have [b]never felt so disappointed[/b] in a game my entire life. I used to see potential in this game. I was even willing to forgive the lack of story, repetitive game-play, and overall laziness in design. But I will not spend another dollar on this franchise, if this trend continues. ....please take a few lessons from studios like Riot. This is the age of open betas, early access, and digital services that we call games. You can't expect to keep a community engaged for ten years like this. And [b]every Destiny media personality I follow... from Datto to IGN resonates this same message.[/b]

I think most, if not all, serious feedback has been put in the back burner. Its sad really, especially when you see how much potential this game had. These people at bungie need to stop being so greedy and release all of the 'DLC' for free. Just because you have no idea where to go with the story does not give you the incentive to break it down into parts, sell it back to us for way more than the content is worth, and give us absolutely nothing new. I gave up on the game when I realized they really dont give a flyingphuk about us in the community. Theres no content, no ranking, no matchmaking where its needed, theres no dialogue, nothing immersive, and there is NO story. This game is done, and I'm glad the fanbase is slowly dissipating.

I'm glad he responded and it shows real character in what he said. however, it makes me feel let down that he isn't going to or won't respond to real topics because we drove an entire company not to speak to us unless something was concrete. there are huge topics like vanity slots and loot drops numbers and ratios things we scream about everyday that need to be done "behind closed doors" now. did bungie say or so alot of things in trailers and interviews that never happened and we dug up to rub in their faces? suuure did, that being said Deej mentioned road blocks in development and I feel ashamed that we the players have made one of ourselves with our lack of civility and proper communication. Damnit...

definitely the most pure post I've read. it deserves an answer. it BEGS an answer. how much of a democracy is this game? it seems more of a dictatorship where heavy ammo costs more, loot caves are expunged, cheeses are fixed, exotics don't drop as frequently as they once did. instead of fixing vault space, VoG glitches and the other thousands of ideas this community has proposed to truly make the game better. it appears their every effort is to maximize our grind, dismissing our "problems" because our problems make us spend LESS TIME PLAYING.

It's a fine line between what we want and.. well. Um.. that's really all that should matter

Honestly, I gave up. Bugs like losing heavy ammo at respawn are in the game since day1. As a software engineer I can imagine how super hard it is to fix a bug that is pinned down to a specific cause (ammo perk). Bungie had months to fix it and all of us sacrificed dozens or even hundreds of ammo packs to this bug - no fix. Deej wrote bungie is listening.. maybe they should start [b][i]reading[/i][/b]! Even if they listen/read, it is pointless if they dont act accordingly! I am not talking about changing everything that comes up in the forums, there is a lot of bullshit like crybabies demanding nerfs and so on. But I would expect bungie to mention the biggest topics in the weekly update. Like the huge amount of negatice feedback on the dlc itself. Not only customers but magazines as well call the dlc an insult on the players.. not a single word from bungie.. I doubt the guys at bungie [i]really[/i] sit in their whirlpools, counting our money, but the lack of any communication seems to prove me wrong - they ARE counting our money and have a good time with it.. The last updates consisted mostly of christmas wishes and comments about the devs having family, drinking some wine and enjoying the holidays. I grant them that, sure, nobody expects them to work 24 hours on christmas eve. But I dont care to read that. I dont care to read fluffy statistics with some words of humor 'at least 5 did it legit *giggle*. What I do care about are results, bug fixes of day1 bugs, reliable comments about what's next, comments about things the community bothers about, current problems and what to about it.. In short terms: I expect nothing as bungie proved that they give a shit about the community, no matter what deej says.. otherwise lots of the bad, the real bad design decisions were never made...

I posted this clip in the update thread but seems like this was the better thread for it. Clip from The Couch Trip that seems to represent Bungie and feedback https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcifAkvDn4

I honestly can't imagine how tough it is to come back from break and be bombarded day in and out. I appreciate your help and honestly love the game. Issues? Sure...but issues aside you guys have created something great with awesome potential