If you want to know what unbalanced looks like, I'll tell you read on.
Tonight I jumped onto Destiny. As soon as I do, I join one of my Destiny friends whom I play with almost every day (meaning 5 out of 7 days a week). The conversation is a bit choppy so, we go to set up a chat. By the time I can set up a room he sends me an invite from someone else's chat party. He asks me if I want to do the new raid(FYI, we raid together all the time). He says that they are at the final boss and asks me if I had done it before. I reply that I have done it one time before but that we didn't beat him. Then another voice (that I don't recognize cuts in and says,[b] "Do you have Gallahorn?"[/b] I reply, "No" because I don't. He then says, (I can't tell if to me or to my friend) "Sorry man, we need to grab two more Gallahorn guys." (It's not mentioned but I know that my friend has Gallahorn) There is about 3 or 4 seconds of background talk. Then it flashes across my screen, "You have been kicked out of the party." The guy kicked me out because I don't have Gallahorn.
If someone like me can be screened out on account of not having 1 particular weapon, then that weapon is broken.
That's not a brag or conceit, it's simply a fact. I play 6 or 7 days a week since release date. I have 3 level 30 characters, now one 31 and two 30's since the DLC. I ran the Vault of Glass 35 times. I have 12 exotic weapons and 11 exotic armors, not counting duplicates. I fit squarely in the "People who play Destiny too much club". But because I didn't have that 1 weapon none of it mattered. I just wasn't lucky enough to get a Gallahorn so that means I'm second tier.
No other explanation makes sense. They know that Gallahorn creates a separate tier. Gallarhorn is too overpowered to be offered at random.
So fix it Bungie. I'm not the type to rage quit over something like this. I know people make mistakes and any endeavor as big as creating Destiny is going have some mistakes made. However, I'm not the type to keep playing and more importantly, to keep paying, If I'm going to be considered a second tier player because of the luck of the draw.
EDIT: Dec. 16, 2014, 12:40PM CST
I posted the below in response to someone's comment further down in thread, but no one reads that far. Some people are still missing my point and I thing the response I gave below provides some context to what I mean.
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But the issue not the competence of the other team. The issue isn't whether or not you actually do need Gallahorn to beat Crota. The issue is that one particular weapon so stands out from the others that it has started to become a basis of inclusion in the minds of gamers. That's what I'm reporting.
And nerfing the weapon is not the only solution. The problem is if a weapon both is a basis of inclusion AND is randomly obtained. To fix it you only need to solve one of the two. Either make it readily available, or make other substitutes that perform equally and are readily available. If the basis of inclusion were for instance, "The Devil You Know" or I guess now, "The Devil You Don't" that would not be a problem even if it were OP, because everybody can get it at will. Or if it were Hawkmoon as the basis of inclusion, but Thorn performed well enough to be create a legitimate argument as to which was better that would be okay. Thorn is close enough and is obtainable by everyone willing to do enough bounties; therefore Hawk would cease to be used as a basis of inclusion.
But Gally is a non-bounty exotic, and you can't get most non-bounty exotics at will, that is a problem.
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Agreed. Same thing happened to me on LFG. I told them I have maxed out Truth, and they were like, no thanks, we need gjallahorns...
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So just cause some goof ball kicked you one time you want a weapon nerfed? The guys who kicked you were obviously super bad if they can't kill Croata with regular rockets. Do you have truth? Definitely a good somewhat comparable launcher that works well in that fight. I don't have a g horn, but I'd be sick if it dropped for me and then got nerfed.
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2 RepliesIs this all really based on one event just cause u got kicked? What if they had required rare auto rifles and u didn't have one? Nerf those too? Just cause a group wants to do it a certain what doesn't mean what they want is overpowered. It means they want something and that's their right. Grow a pair of fuzzies and get over it
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F*** i hope you get one and after you max it out it gets nerfed. Ppl like you are destroying this game. Soon we are all going to be walking oround with feathers and cotton to throw at ppl. Learn how to play so when they ask you do you have gjallihorn you can say "no but ive beaten crota 5+ times without cheesing him so you tell me if you want me on your team". I myself havent done it 5 times but you get my drift lol
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F*** i hope you get one and after you max it out it gets nerfed. Ppl like you are destroying this game. Soon we are all going to be walking oround with feathers and cotton to throw at ppl. Learn how to play so when they ask you do you have gjallihorn you can say "no but ive beaten crota 5+ times without cheesing him so you tell me if you want me on your team". I myself havent done it 5 times but you get my drift lol
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Those guys are assholes and probably suck because you don't need ghorn to beat anything. It's nice to have but its not like crota is hard at all. I just did the raid for the first time and I think one guy had it, we beat the raid in like 30 minutes lol. I say just get new friends cause they sound retarded and shitty.
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Would like some cheese with your whine good sir? I don't even own one and I think its fine! Its an exotic weapon. Get over it!
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Ive been in your place
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3 RepliesWhine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine Oh I'm sorry, had enough yet? This is all I see in the feedback forums anymore so I thought I'd do the same.
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Your envy makes you pathetic, have some pride in your self and stop trying to hurt other players by asking to have there equipment ruined. Also if some one hurts your feeling because they won't let you play with them, find some real friends.
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If that's the way they want to beat the raid then so be it. If I want to beat the raid with all hunters wearing the pumpkin head then that's what I want to do. Simple, move on and go have fun. Sounds like this game isn't fun for you anymore.
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Quick fix get the galli oh u can't that easy and neither can I even tho I been playn since day 1 hope xur shows love this weekend
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You're right, Gjallarhorn is overpowered and I love it and wouldn't want it changed for the world.
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If they kicked you for that they're the kind of people you don't wanna play with. I've killed crota without anyone who has gjalahorn.
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I have the gjallarhorn and so do many of my friends have it also but it is not needed for EVERYTHING the player is completely incompetent and has no idea what he's doing. It doesn't need to be needed people need to know what the hell to do when the hell to do it don't let his view make you think something is broken in the game.
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Gjallarhorn is not needed for crota. Those guys were F***ING STUPID.
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You are deluding yourself into thinking this game has anything to do with skill. Your skill has nothing to do with rewards. Absolutely nothing. You are blaming the wrong thing. The RNG is there to disproportionately reward weaker players. It is by design so skilled players won't walk all over weaker players. Bungie did this so little kids (the targeted demographic) can still feel bad ass. Know how I got my Gjallahorn? I came in last in a control match. It has nothing to do with the weapon itself, it is part of the game and intentional.
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You wouldn't be whining if you had it is what I gathered. But you don't so here we are
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Ok so srry what happened to you with your friend and being kicked first off, second off it isn't over powered it is a exotic rocket launcher though I do think u did have a good point there but a exotic rocket launcher is supposed to be over power that's just how exotics work
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It's not necessary but it helps a lot. If those players booted you because you didn't have Galla, they were bad players to begin with. It's an awesome weapon and just bc you were kicked doesn't mean it should be nerfed. Just get into a solid raid group. All it takes is good timing w/ rockets, a good sword carrier and strategy. Problemo solved.
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This tool is a bored troll with nothing else better to do than ask for more nerfs....go back to battlefield or cod!!
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Great another "i dont have it nerf it" post. Why dont you crawl back under your rock green monster. :/
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I understand what you say, but no. I want that gun, I want to wish to get something. I wanted a lot of other weapons too, until they got nerfed. I'm not exited to get them now. Instead, maybe find someone else to raid with, someone who doesn't care what u carry.
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WAAAAAAAH. WaaaaaAAAAAAAAAHhh
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Edited by fufu87: 12/24/2014 3:40:48 PMI used to complete raids without having Gally,. Gally is a good addition if you have it makes things easier. Find a good raid team and stick with them. You can find good players looking for groups or groups just looking for a plus one. Or if you are so concerned about your weapon arsenal, grind nightfalls, heroics and crucible Edit: - People set requirements for their teams, trying finding people not so picky.. and still you can find people on the forums..
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You should delete that dude from your friends list.