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Edited by Darrius-Cole: 12/16/2014 6:58:02 PM
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Gallahorn is officially overpowered - FIX IT - My Experience

If you want to know what unbalanced looks like, I'll tell you read on. Tonight I jumped onto Destiny. As soon as I do, I join one of my Destiny friends whom I play with almost every day (meaning 5 out of 7 days a week). The conversation is a bit choppy so, we go to set up a chat. By the time I can set up a room he sends me an invite from someone else's chat party. He asks me if I want to do the new raid(FYI, we raid together all the time). He says that they are at the final boss and asks me if I had done it before. I reply that I have done it one time before but that we didn't beat him. Then another voice (that I don't recognize cuts in and says,[b] "Do you have Gallahorn?"[/b] I reply, "No" because I don't. He then says, (I can't tell if to me or to my friend) "Sorry man, we need to grab two more Gallahorn guys." (It's not mentioned but I know that my friend has Gallahorn) There is about 3 or 4 seconds of background talk. Then it flashes across my screen, "You have been kicked out of the party." The guy kicked me out because I don't have Gallahorn. If someone like me can be screened out on account of not having 1 particular weapon, then that weapon is broken. That's not a brag or conceit, it's simply a fact. I play 6 or 7 days a week since release date. I have 3 level 30 characters, now one 31 and two 30's since the DLC. I ran the Vault of Glass 35 times. I have 12 exotic weapons and 11 exotic armors, not counting duplicates. I fit squarely in the "People who play Destiny too much club". But because I didn't have that 1 weapon none of it mattered. I just wasn't lucky enough to get a Gallahorn so that means I'm second tier. No other explanation makes sense. They know that Gallahorn creates a separate tier. Gallarhorn is too overpowered to be offered at random. So fix it Bungie. I'm not the type to rage quit over something like this. I know people make mistakes and any endeavor as big as creating Destiny is going have some mistakes made. However, I'm not the type to keep playing and more importantly, to keep paying, If I'm going to be considered a second tier player because of the luck of the draw. EDIT: Dec. 16, 2014, 12:40PM CST I posted the below in response to someone's comment further down in thread, but no one reads that far. Some people are still missing my point and I thing the response I gave below provides some context to what I mean. .................................. But the issue not the competence of the other team. The issue isn't whether or not you actually do need Gallahorn to beat Crota. The issue is that one particular weapon so stands out from the others that it has started to become a basis of inclusion in the minds of gamers. That's what I'm reporting. And nerfing the weapon is not the only solution. The problem is if a weapon both is a basis of inclusion AND is randomly obtained. To fix it you only need to solve one of the two. Either make it readily available, or make other substitutes that perform equally and are readily available. If the basis of inclusion were for instance, "The Devil You Know" or I guess now, "The Devil You Don't" that would not be a problem even if it were OP, because everybody can get it at will. Or if it were Hawkmoon as the basis of inclusion, but Thorn performed well enough to be create a legitimate argument as to which was better that would be okay. Thorn is close enough and is obtainable by everyone willing to do enough bounties; therefore Hawk would cease to be used as a basis of inclusion. But Gally is a non-bounty exotic, and you can't get most non-bounty exotics at will, that is a problem.

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  • I've heard this happen many times before, I'm not complaining because I don't have it. It's the TRUTH.

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  • Look bruh, don't blame the Ghally, blame the guys you play with. If your so called buddy you play with ditches you to play with a bunxh of dickheads who are so bad that they need multiple Ghallys to beat crota with, then you were better off being kicked. As for your "Friend", I would have ditched that SOB for people who wouldnt have ditched you for a -blam!-ing weapon. I have damned good buddies that I run missions and raid with, we always share the spoils of loot chest and checkpoints. If they missed a Nightfall or need to do a herioc weekly strike, I would drop what I'm doing and help them out, regardless if I already did it or not, you don't leave you battle buddies hanging or alone. I wouldn't worry about having the ghally just yet and don't let that experience sour your views on the weapon, Ill tell you right now, I've beaten crota 14x since its release with all three guardians plus 2 rebuilts, an we don't ever use ghally except second dropping of crotas shield after the initial assault. The first time, primaried and specials, this gives the sword bearer a chance to grab orbs and get into position, by that time, crotas shields are down and before he kneels, the sword bearer is already upon him with a super. Thats true team work and battle bros with absolute communication, NOT A PISS POOR TEAM THAT NEEDS GHALLYS FOR CROTA. Trust me bruh, your better off.

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  • If you are trying to play with people who feel like everyone needs to have gallarhorn to beat crota than you need more experienced players.

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  • So your argument is "Gjallarhorn is OP because i haven't it", makes sense

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  • Idk why they need two one gally and someone else just talking shit to crota will drop his shield its crazy but very handy to have one person and teo shots per shield

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    • Use heavy machine guns on Crota as an alternative to launchers. Works well with reduced risk of somone accidentally blowing themselves up.

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    • Why is this thread still active? -blam!- off whiner.

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    • Edited by j lew1s: 12/28/2014 3:58:43 PM
      It don't need a nerf but the guy looking for more ghorns is a daft as -blam!- 1 ghorn is enough for crota or no one could solo it. Edit: I also don't have one :(

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    • Edited by Britton: 12/28/2014 4:00:07 PM
      You dont need gjallahorn to drop crotas shield. People are just dumb man. 2 or 3 rockets and a smattering of primary fire from any thing thats maxed out will drop his shield. Just look for groups that aren't idiots and youll be right as rain.

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    • Shut the hell up

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    • Your reasons that it's unbalance is not legitimate reasons.

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    • Haha git gud xD

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      • It takes 2 gallarhorn shots to down crota, realistically you only 1 person with gallarhorn to down him every time by themsleves.

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      • If you were to get one im sure within 90 seconds you would remove this thread. 9/10 bungie wouldn't fix it anyways due to the amount of people who have one and stand behind it would cry and whine till its rebuffed just like the mythoclast. The new raid rocket is a knock off gally and would suffice till you get one. Also you dont even need gallys icebreaker and other weapons can drop his shield just as effectively..

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      • Edited by Execrable: 12/25/2014 5:17:35 PM
        Those guys must be massive scrublords. You literally only need three Gjallarhorn rounds to down Crota's shield to begin with. And depending on the method you're using, the weapon does such uneven dps that it can make timing on Crota rather difficult. Further, a team of ice breakers/rocketers should have absolutely no trouble downing Crota's shield either. If you actually need three or more Gjallarhorners your teammates are probably high and zoning in and out... Any rocket is fine when it comes to Crota, especially if 3+ people are shooting at him. But just because you don't have it doesn't mean it has to be nerfed.

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        • Your friend should've left the party and found another group with you. That's not cool, not at all! Me and my son play on the same account and he got the ghorn. I'm sure most people would just swap it out, but I don't. It's his launcher and I got Truth through a legendary and I'm fine with that. I use my Thorn anyway...

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        • I didn't read the whole thing but I can already see where it's going... And I agree that it's OP. It's supposed to be since it's an exotic but it's too OP. bungies whole premise on buffing/nerfing guns is so that there is not one weapon that rules them all. Example was suros, everyone used it in PVP and it was clearly OP- they nerfed it and you can see more variance in weapons now. Can't be said about gjalla though. If you have it, you're immediately wanted over someone that doesn't. Which isn't really cool. you don't need it to take down crota - it helps but it's not a necessity. Personally, I hope they nerf it just slightly. not a crazy nerf but one where it doesn't completely decimate a target. Maybe half the swarming projectiles would suffice. Before you all say - "go die, don't touch my gjalla". I want you to realize in its current state it's like having the scarab gun from halo lol it's broken. That and really the only reason why I agree with this individual is because I've browsed the forums and other sites and this is literally all I see (slight exaggeration will be implemented) "LFM lvl 33s. Must have gjalla 2.0. No two of the same character class. Been through raid over 20 times. Can solo it. Has a masters in chemical engineering. Can say there digits of Pi to 100 places. And knows how to cheese in ways that us cheesers don't even know" It's just getting ridiculous lol. there's been a few teams I've been with that believed only a fireteam of all 31s with 3 icebreakers and 3 gjallahorns could even have a shot at crota. Stupid right? Anyways I'm done. Sorry - rant over.

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        • Gjallahorn isn't the problem, that douche is.

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        • "I don't have a weapon, it's not fair make it bad." Literally what I just read.

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          • Kill yourself?

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          • Maybe you suck and they just wanted an excuse to boot you

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          • Would you be upset if a basketball team needed a center and wouldn't take you because you were a point guard and already had 2 point gaurds? They felt they needed the extra fire power, so find another team if you're that good.

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          • While Gjallerhorn is useful for CE, it isn't necessary. Any decent rocket launcher or icebreaker is fine for taking down his shield also. A good combo for the final boss is any non-exotic weapon, icebreaker, and hunger of crota(rocket launcher).

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            • People that make Gjallarhorn a requirement to join their gang are scrubs. Gjallarhorn is in no way required to beat Crota and doesn't even make it much easier unless your timing is absolutely perfect. Best way I've found is 1 Gjallarhorn user only that knocks off the last 1/3 of his health and tells the sword guy to jump to Crota right as he fires the rocket. 3-4 Gjallarhorns is too excessive, you bring him down too fast before the sword guy can get there in most cases. People that are only looking for "easy mode" everything are scrubs. Just as people who cheese everything are scrubs. Only in this case, the Gjallarhorn doesn't even make it easier. Keep your head up OP, those guys weren't worth playing with anyway. Yes I have Gjallarhorn, it's 331, and yes overall I agree it's overpowered as shit. Just not as OP for this fight as the sheep think.

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              • Are you sure it's for not having the ghalley, or you just being a colossal undesirable?

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              • Aw it killed me thats it over powered get rid of it

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