If you want to know what unbalanced looks like, I'll tell you read on.
Tonight I jumped onto Destiny. As soon as I do, I join one of my Destiny friends whom I play with almost every day (meaning 5 out of 7 days a week). The conversation is a bit choppy so, we go to set up a chat. By the time I can set up a room he sends me an invite from someone else's chat party. He asks me if I want to do the new raid(FYI, we raid together all the time). He says that they are at the final boss and asks me if I had done it before. I reply that I have done it one time before but that we didn't beat him. Then another voice (that I don't recognize cuts in and says,[b] "Do you have Gallahorn?"[/b] I reply, "No" because I don't. He then says, (I can't tell if to me or to my friend) "Sorry man, we need to grab two more Gallahorn guys." (It's not mentioned but I know that my friend has Gallahorn) There is about 3 or 4 seconds of background talk. Then it flashes across my screen, "You have been kicked out of the party." The guy kicked me out because I don't have Gallahorn.
If someone like me can be screened out on account of not having 1 particular weapon, then that weapon is broken.
That's not a brag or conceit, it's simply a fact. I play 6 or 7 days a week since release date. I have 3 level 30 characters, now one 31 and two 30's since the DLC. I ran the Vault of Glass 35 times. I have 12 exotic weapons and 11 exotic armors, not counting duplicates. I fit squarely in the "People who play Destiny too much club". But because I didn't have that 1 weapon none of it mattered. I just wasn't lucky enough to get a Gallahorn so that means I'm second tier.
No other explanation makes sense. They know that Gallahorn creates a separate tier. Gallarhorn is too overpowered to be offered at random.
So fix it Bungie. I'm not the type to rage quit over something like this. I know people make mistakes and any endeavor as big as creating Destiny is going have some mistakes made. However, I'm not the type to keep playing and more importantly, to keep paying, If I'm going to be considered a second tier player because of the luck of the draw.
EDIT: Dec. 16, 2014, 12:40PM CST
I posted the below in response to someone's comment further down in thread, but no one reads that far. Some people are still missing my point and I thing the response I gave below provides some context to what I mean.
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But the issue not the competence of the other team. The issue isn't whether or not you actually do need Gallahorn to beat Crota. The issue is that one particular weapon so stands out from the others that it has started to become a basis of inclusion in the minds of gamers. That's what I'm reporting.
And nerfing the weapon is not the only solution. The problem is if a weapon both is a basis of inclusion AND is randomly obtained. To fix it you only need to solve one of the two. Either make it readily available, or make other substitutes that perform equally and are readily available. If the basis of inclusion were for instance, "The Devil You Know" or I guess now, "The Devil You Don't" that would not be a problem even if it were OP, because everybody can get it at will. Or if it were Hawkmoon as the basis of inclusion, but Thorn performed well enough to be create a legitimate argument as to which was better that would be okay. Thorn is close enough and is obtainable by everyone willing to do enough bounties; therefore Hawk would cease to be used as a basis of inclusion.
But Gally is a non-bounty exotic, and you can't get most non-bounty exotics at will, that is a problem.
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-blam!- you -blam!-. You clearly have never beat crota. So why would he want you? Ghorn is the best heavy weapon and had a lot of power. Guess what it's -blam!-ing exotic dipshit
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6 RepliesYou are a moron. I have several friends who don't have the ghorn and we have completed all the raids everytime. You must suck if no one once to play with you because you don't have a weapon. Other shit works, but you suck and can't even snipe, so of course no one wants to raid with you. Maybe if you could use a relic or do something productive. But to hear people complaining they don't have something that is exotic (meaning not everyone will have it). That's why it's perfect not being nurf. You should do us all a favor and sell your ps4 and by a gaming system you can't play online.
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Stop bitching they're not ruining the Gjorn because you got kicked for being dead weight.
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I'm leaving my feedback on your feedback under the feedback column. That [b][i][u]THIS IS BULLSHIT[/u][/i][/b]
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-blam!- off -blam!- your moms pussu is op over penetrated
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2 RepliesI know the real solution... [spoiler]Get new friends[/spoiler]
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Get new friends. Hunger of Crota is just as useful. And if you have icbreaker you are just as useful
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Your friends' lameness is OP, not Gjallerhorn.
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They don't need to nerf or limit the drop they need to change the name to Jellyhorn cause scrubs like this dude are mad at RNGesus for not gracing him with this gorgeous beast!!
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So your saying if you don't have one of the most op guns no one can and that it must be nerfed? I just got one this week and let me tell you I got kicked out of chats and I could honestly care less. There is no need to complain about it because you are jealous that they wanted your friend for 5 min and not you.
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They lack skill and intelligence, you don't. All hail Ice Breaker
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Do its not op because u gt kicker for not having one grow up
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1st off this is stupid. Grow a pair of balls suck it up and move on. People wouldn't let join their fire team because I don't have icebreaker 2.0. You don't see any posts about nerfing that now do ya. 2nd anyone know when xur may be selling gjhorn again with that preview glitch?
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1 ReplyDont complain and whine for a nerf.. Bungie doesn't know how to Balance they only know how to BREAK weapons it will become like mythoclast also you will be out numbered by the people with them if it comes to a poll. Find real friends to raid with who dont care what weapons you got
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Pick your words wisely! Not nerfed, just less rare. I find your post a little bitter.
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1 ReplyI'm confused on why they would need 6 G-Horns in CE when it only takes 1 or 2 missiles to down him.
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If anything, Bungie should implement a system that requires other people in the party to vote too. But -blam!- that team leader
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Bro, seriously, why u so sensitive! It's just a game at the end of the day! I should of just told the guy to -blam!- off!
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1 ReplyThink you ran into shitty players and douchers. Obviously heavy weapons are good, but experienced players know noob tubes will only take you so far. Its about tactics. Shoot, move, communicate.
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1 ReplyIt makes it easy to drop crota. 2 shots and he's down. Find a group of friends that doesn't give a -blam!- what you have. Crying for a nerf because you don't have it is just childish. Took me 600 hours to get one. Guess how many times I was kicked by my friends before I had one, 0. The problem is your "friends", not the Yolotube
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It's a rocket launcher, what did you expect
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Seriously. I agree. I'm not a raider yet but I follow these forums routinely. No nerf necessary. Check. Scarcity balance needed. ABSOLUTELY. What I've noticed is that people that get gjallahorn turn into -blam!-ing douche bags, often. At least the ones that post here. They act like elitist snobs. Probably same ones disconnect cheating the crota raid.
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You're basing this opinion on the fact that one person kicked you out because you don't have g-horn. It has not happened multiple times nor have you had any actual experience using the weapon. I'm sorry but I'm just going to call this what it is, ignorance. I have beaten crota 21 times and vault of glass 41 and I have never made it a requirement for anyone to use g-horn because it is not a necessity, so my advice? Find a raid team that is actually good before you go complaining to everyone on the forms calling for nerfs.
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5 RepliesEdited by deadpunk69: 12/28/2014 2:10:08 PMJust because u dont have a weapon doesnt mean its op. I read this and laughed my -blam!-ing ass off. Let me guess icebreaker is op to or do u have that. Sounds to me like ur on shitty teams 1 maxed gjallahorn and icebreaker is more than enough for crota. All those rockets is just asking for trouble. Look next time u need to run through messege me my ps4 ign is above.
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I don't think the problem is with the ghorn or with your skill/lvl but with the party who kicked you. I've done lvl 30 vog without a single ghorn user in the party. There is no reason to nerf it. You just have to find a party that doesn't suck.
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I've heard this happen many times before, I'm not complaining because I don't have it. It's the TRUTH.