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Edited by weaver:
11/18/2014 4:42:42 PM
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Why keep making it harder for solo players?
EDIT 2: Thanks for the responses. The point I was trying to make was bigger than this specific fix. I see there is a work around, but the point was that even in a multiplayer game, there are people like me who prefer to play solo and you cannot change this. I will play as part of a team only when I feel like it. You need to accommodate players like me no matter what kind of game you create. For example in GTA Online I always play invite only and don't invite anyone and only play multiplayer for racing. That is how I like to play. There are just too many people who can quickly get on your nerves for me to always be playing with others.
EDIT: I can adapt, that is easy enough, but not all classes can do this solo. My warlock can just hang back more and fireborn when I inevitably get killed, but my other 2 characters won't be able to try this. I suspect that if I was level 30 on all characters, that this would be a moot point since it gets lots easier then.
The main issue is the fix: Winter's Run: Fixed an exploit zone in the Aksor boss encounter
That was something which made it possible for me to finally get through Nightfall solo with my Hunter. My Warlock always finishes nightfall. My titan still can't do it.
Are you trying to push me out of the game with restrictive content? It is bad enough I can't play the raid or future raids, so I don't need to buy the DLC. This incessant need for game companies to make everything multiplayer is wearing thin on me.
I will try out Iron Banner, but if I keep getting these solo play nerfs I may just play another game.
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#Destiny
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I know this post is from 2014 but I'm on Destiny 2 now on the warmind expansion and it has gotten no better for solo players it's only become extremely more difficult as most of the content and missions become pretty much impossible unless you are grouped up with other players and they expect you to have people all the time to do endgame activities with otherwise you simply do not progress in the game and get stuck at a soft cap until you do finally find people to do the raid with or the Nightfall or trials with so on and so forth which I have tried many times but no offense to the people in this forum or anything but a lot of them are toxic and simply will not accept you because you have not played the activity even if you have watched numerous videos or your light level is high it usually doesn't matter because you have never played the activity so then have no choice but to play solo and not progressing in the game at all
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Edited by Paladinrja: 12/23/2016 5:46:11 PMI too get a strong sense the game brick walls solo players. Stuff like rocking the screen non-stop when you try to use the pillar in the center of the 'shield bros' map. Over-explosions and increased area affect dmg. This goes for using any cover, in any map that makes it hard for these over-sized brutes to insta-kill you. Everything either packs launchers or hip-fires snipers rifles with absolute precision. Then someone joins the strike and without having arrived at your location yet, the whole game instantly gets easier. I dunno about anyone else and I enjoy the game when it doesn't cheat me out of doing so.. but to me these sorts of things just communicate 'prohibitiveness' and that's no good. Most games (and most gamers) are accustomed to games getting harder the more players are playing. Not getting impossible because you are in the strike by yourself. It makes me wonder why even allow solo play, why not make it mandatory to engage a strike with a fire team only? Don't even get me started on the connection advantage in SRL or Crucible. How come Nintendo can have a million things going on at once in Mario kart, avg out connection speeds and provide fair competitive MP that puts every player on even footing? - for SRL I seriously recommend getting rid of players being able to bunt each other til a solution to conn problems is found. For a racer, SRL has WAYYYYYY too much data down the pipe. Connection advantage in this day and age is just so... archaic
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5 RepliesI am there with you. I want to solo things and changes like these are driving me to play something else. I have to test out these changes before I make any decisions, but the message is pretty clear to me. "Group up or gtfo"
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All the players who love playing solo, who cringe at interacting with others, have social anxiety. We should have our own clan. It would be awesome. None of us would ever show up to the meetings lol.
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I wish they would make it harder to solo. This game is getting easier for the bad players. I want a real challenge.
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I haven't been able to do them solo just because of disconnects lately. Tried three times before I had to get a team
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1 ReplyEdited by Dreadzyn: 11/18/2014 4:12:58 PMReally you have to ask?? This is an MMO that is not an MMO. Right Bungie? We don't want you to play our non MMO solo. Get your friends. No Matchmaking! This is not an MMO. Oh, You can still solo? Beef up our Non MMO enemies, nerf hiding spots. Whoops, we accidently nerfed some weapons. Can you solo our non MMO now? Explain that Deej?
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Edited by CaptainChortles: 11/18/2014 4:38:58 PMBecause Bungie wants us to get teammates. It's not that I can't, it's that I don't want to. I don't understand why they don't just remove the cheese spots and leave the difficulty intact. It's annoying now to have to form a party 3 times at the beginning of each week to get the Radiant Light buff. What can people not understand? I don't always want to deal with others. Sometimes I do and we do the Nightfall/Weekly/Crucible. Other times I just want to play. The more and more of this game basically becomes fireteam only, the more of a hassle it is to play it. It becomes "coordinate my life with a dozen others" instead of "sit down when I want and play" unless I add randoms from here every week... in which case, might as well add matchmaking because there is 0 difference between adding randoms from here or the game itself. Hopefully this eventually gets changed. I have 3 characters. Having to get a group to run the weekly Stikres 6 times when I used to be able to do them carefully solo whenever I wanted is stupid and pointless. Let's be honest. We've fought these bullet sponges again and again and again. I know I don't want to fight them a 100000th time for my Radiant Light buff with so much health that it takes a full magazine of TDYK to kill ONE Vandal. Despite these changes players will still solo. The difference is that now more of them will be pushed towards using cheese methods rather than doing it normally.
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Bump.
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This game is not intended for solo play
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Don't play solo much anymore, and still the Earth Nightfall was a f-ing nightmare, and it was a p-ss TO SEE THINGS GETTING HARDER. Hiding spots, etc., are not cheats.
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10 RepliesEdited by Doktimus Prime: 11/18/2014 6:45:59 PMAdd me if you want to run the night fall, the weekly, the daily, or the raid. My gamertag is the same as myname. Level 30 hunter. Its always fun to play with someone new. I've got no problem helping people through stuff Edit: I am on the Xbox 1
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4 RepliesFirst of all. If you really must, you can still get under the platform. Secondly, they want you to play as a team during Nightfalls, not by yourself. Which would be great and all if they had some kind of LFG [b]in[/b] game for people who don't want to come to the forums or use one of the 3rd party websites. It doesn't even have to be straight up matchmaking, it could literally be a LFG board in the Director that allows you to join a person and closes the 'ad' once all slots are filled. Anyways, just one more way Bungie is forcing everyone to play it their way or not at all. I'm just glad I always have a group for the all the weekly stuff.
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2 RepliesNo they are trying to prevent exploit the game. You are crying about the fact they stopped you from cheating in the game. Stop cheating and get good at the game. Exploits ruin the game so I am glad they removed.
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It's because Bungie wants Destiny to be the toughest game ever and they're being insecure and think it's still too simple thus the raid changes and now the "if you play solo it's tougher" change. Basically it boils down to Bungie being insecure.
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Edited by a_LaliLuleLo: 11/18/2014 8:11:12 PMTl;Dr cause Bungie hates lone wolves and wanna force us to play with people. I don't mind playing with others but three times where I wanna just solo something like my goddamn nightfalls... And I don't use the under the platform method on Aksor either but I was able to solo that in 15 minutes. Now you're telling me I need help Bungie? GFG
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2 RepliesYou can still solo this. You can still get under the area. Also, there is a better spot that you can get on the ridge that works better for solo. He stands still and cant hit you and you unload on his face. I have solod every nightfall without issues so I dont understand what the problem is. Most of the time I dont even cheese since its boring.
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Edited by m12112112: 11/18/2014 8:03:06 PMIts perfect to be solo. I'm always solo, crucible or otherwise. They have just made it idiotic in the sense that less options for solo players who primarily play crucible, to get strange coins. Because any farmwhoring PVE dude can get tons of stuff, and do runs of 'raids/whatever' with a team. And THEN, bring those exotic weapons, or those bought with golden coins into Crucible. Origin of strange coins lies outside of the crucible, being my point. There is a random coin once every 50 matches maybe, but no guarantee like 9 from the weekly-whatever. One can say stats are normalized in crucible, but its not the same. Exotics have an advantage. I got my first exotic weapons last week, and can feel the difference. Was hoping to be able to 'buy' 1 or 2 more exotic weapons, only reason I even venture out to the PVE environment once a week. If the solo-doable methods are nerfed, will stick with whatever I have, and hope for an exotic drop in crucible, and one which I was expecting/by choice (great chance of that I know) EDIT: Might be wrong to make blanket statement, but would be interesting to know how many of the 'good ole PvE folks' like to play with exotic weapons in crucible, and use fusion/shottys as primary and think using whatever means available is ok in PvP but not in PvE.
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Hey man, agreed - great post! If u want a casual run partner, no mikes etc then add me to your friends list and we can catch a few nf's. I have said this a lot today, bungie; it's not important how you want players to play our game. What is important is how players play your game! Stop forcing us to play your way!
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Capitans shoot like crazy, lol.
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4 RepliesYou mean this fix? http://youtu.be/uJCM1dLaisI
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2 RepliesI did the heroic solo right b4 reset. I found a spot on a rock that was hidden from the Archon but still vulnerable to the 2 snipers that eventually spawn as well as the servitors. Got it done but it wasn't perfect and I doubt it would work for the nightfall.
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2 RepliesIt's a multiplayer game. There are soloable activities like the story, yes, but strikes were never intended to be completed alone. At this point your choices are: 1) Do not partake in the Nightfall 2) Do not play the game at all (if you feel that the only fun things left require a team) 3) Find a fireteam
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1 ReplyYou should try dark souls and dark souls 2 man! Those are -blam!-ing stupidly hard games to play solo!
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2 RepliesWhy not use the several websites available to find help?
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Edited by Din: 11/18/2014 5:17:24 PMI don't think they do need to accommodate you. If you played football and refused to play on a team would you get very far? What do you think the coach would say when you joined a team knowing it required x number of players then said you wanted to play by yourself? Bungie told us nightfalls would be extremely tough for groups. They should be impossible for solo players. This is a game with multiplayer components and solo components. There are parts they intend to be multiplayer. That's that.
