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Is the Bladedancer Hunter OP? Your mom thinks so! PLEASE READ!

Titan is the Over Powered class.

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Hunter is the Over Powered class.

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Warlock is the Over Powered class.

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All classes are Balanced

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I've seen many threads calling the Bladedancer subclass OP. I can't help but to disagree. In my opinion it's super has high (the highest) offensive capability but overall it's the weakest subclass. Now before I begin to make my case let me start by saying I DO NOT WANT BLADEDANCER BUFFED. I DO NOT WANT ANY OF THE WARLOCK OR TITAN CLASSES NERFED. I think the classes are pretty close to balanced in a paper rock scissors kind of way. Let's begin with the obvious: the SUPER! Yes it has the CAPABILITY to get the most kills in a single use, but it leaves you more vulnerable than the other offensive supers. You have to activate it and then get close to make contact. You can't panic/throw it in a crowded room like fist of havoc or nova bomb (try it). Many people complain about the shield, well I know I shouldn't do this but I'll tell you guys the counters for Bladedancer. Fist of Havoc, Nova bomb, Heavy Machine Guns, Rocket Launchers, Fusion Rifles (I realize most fusion rifle users are unskilled and will miss most of their shots making this strategy unusable for many), auto rifles (DON'T MISS!), Grenades + any gun. What is the counter for Nova Bomb? Blink twice and shoot him when he lands. What is the counter for Fist of Havoc? Luck + Divine intervention. If you are a Defender Titan or a Sunsinger Warlock, well you probably won't like Blade dancers very much. They're the scissors to your paper. Next up GRENADES! I hear a lot that Bladedancers have the best grenades. Wha!?! They don't have ANY unique grenades! Now I won't sit here and say they have the worst grenades (IMO that's the Striker Titan) but they don't have anything unique/special. Flux grenade is just a blue Fusion grenade. Skip grenade is a lightning firebolt grenade and arcbolt grenade is axion bolt. But blue. MELEE time! Base melee damage is 100. Storm fist is 110. Disintegrate is 110. Energy Drain is 110. Scorch is 100 + 25 DoT. Throwing Knife is 100, 130 for precision. Blink strike is 100? and has less range than both warlock melee abilities and WAY less range than throwing knife. All melee abilities have a talent that can boost damage but Blinkstrike's Backstab is VERY situational and RARELY works (In PvE it seems to work fine, but isn't is somewhat useless in PvE?) Lastly I'd like to mention EXOTICS. All subclasses have an exotic piece of armor that seems specifically tailored to them. Some are AWESOME: Achlyophage symbiote (give golden gun another shot) Helm of inmost light (gives you Heastrong AND Death from above), No backup plans (Makes your ward of dawn last FOREVER, although in PvP that tends to get negated) Heart of the Praxic Fire (I won't even talk about this one, it's on everybody's wish list and everyone knows why). I think Mask of the Third Man (the bladedancer exotic) and Skull of Dire Ahamkara (Voidwalker) Are the two most "MEH" exotics meant to boost a given subclass. Skull of Dire ahamkara only makes it more difficult to get killed while throwing nova bomb, it's already plenty difficult to die while throwing nova bomb! What about a bigger blast radius or a second bomb (I know launch to OP rants!) or letting a Warlock double dip some talent points like helm of inmost light? Now the Mask of the Third man isn't "bad" it's just what I'd call "MEH". First it gives health regen when picking up orbs of light which is alright when doing strikes with people who aren't stingy with their supers, but in PvP it's just "meh". Now the part where your bladedancer strikes cost less super energy/time bar is nice (it was sold EARLY so maybe that's where the OP screams come from). I just think I'd like to see the Orbs perk replaces with something like: More super energy from melee kills (does that one even exist? It should right?), increased grenade throw distance, bonus melee energy from grenade hits or double dip talent points. Do people think Bladedancers are OP because they're fast? Well I got news guys, BULLETS ARE FASTER. What else is there? What exactly makes this class OP? The flowing cloak? The fact that they're in the center during commercials? The fact that they are the over - rolled class so it FEELS like one is always kicking you in the nuts? The fact that they don't have any dildos on their helmets (Titans!) ? The fact that they don't wear Bath robes (you know who you are!)? The fact that the Aclyophage Symbiote doesn't want to eat their brain? Sorry this was so long and Thank You to anyone who read the entire thing.
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  • As someone who has played primarily as a hunter, and used to run Bladedancer; Arc Blade is without a doubt one of the most overpowered, noob friendly weapon/ability I've seen in a multiplayer game. Anyone who thinks that garbage is balanced is severely retarded.

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  • I think the classes are pretty balanced, but bladedancer is the most frustrating to play in PvP. Mostly because it takes the least amount of timing/strategy to use. I can't even count how many times I've seen somebody just pop blade dancer around a corner, then go in mashing the melee button and getting minimum 3 kills. Warlocks can be shot down while doing nova bomb or you can jump away from it, titans can be shot down before getting in range of fist of havoc...blade dancers just lunge around frantically and it makes them almost impossible to shoot down or get out of their range (in my experience). That being said, I think the blade dancer super is fine the way it is, except they could maybe add a small (like maybe a half second?) "cool down" between the "lunges."

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    • Man read that whole post and even though im a hunter i dont think bladedancer is op, (I guess im biased) and plus i use golden gun all the time instead.

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    • It is very easy to be killed when using the hunter. The Warlock is OP in my opinion. He throws deadly magic all over the place. He doesn't even worry about accuracy because he's so OP. He is the type of person to hide round the corner with a shotgun or run around with an auto-rifle spraying and praying. Then he zooms into the air with his power and blows everything up, but afterwards grumbles that Hunters are OP, because one managed to kill him by skilfully using a Scout Rifle.

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    • Wow. Really enjoyed this post. You know your stuff. Thanks for sharing. :)

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    • I'm not going to read but I will comment so here! Take it and no problem

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    • [url]http://xboxclips.com/video.php?uid=2535405228869162&gamertag=W1ck3dxskull&vid=dd29a772-def7-4603-8fd0-6e3670265f5d[/url] I don't get why people complain.

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    • No reason to change anything. But we should introduce the term panicdancers...

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      • Nice post. But f u c k bladedancers.

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        • 0% for OP titan 28%hunter

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        • 10/10. Well thought out post.

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