[quote]A US gun lobbyist has said Australia is not on the same planet as the US when dismissing the success of Australian gun control laws.
Head of the Virginia Citizens Defence League Phillip Van Cleave made the comments during an interview with correspondent John Oliver that aired on the Daily Showlast Friday.
After Mr Van Cleave said that it was impossible for gun control to ever work Oliver suggested the example of Australia disproved his point — prompting a bizarre answer from the firearms advocate.
"It's not the United States. It's some other planet: different people, different everything ... [b]but in the real world, with human beings, it's not going to work and gun control isn't going to work. "[/b]
When Oliver told him that Australia had not had a single shooting massacre since gun laws were reformed in 1996 the lobbyist first dismissed the evidence as a "statistical anomaly" before saying that Australia experienced very few mass shootings anyway.
Oliver then showed him footage of the implementor of Australia's gun laws, former prime minister John Howard, saying that the nation suffered 13 massacres in the 18 years before guns laws were reformed but had not seen a single one since 1996.
Mr Van Cleave then backed himself into a corner by saying "unless you can get rid of 100 percent of crime, it's not worth doing anything at all."
When Oliver pushed him on it the gun advocate changed his analogy to swimming pools.
"There are more drownings in backyards where they have swimming pools," he said.
"If they don't have a pool, there are no drownings in backyards, okay? So if the US has a very high number of guns, therefore, there's going to be more chances for somebody to be killed with a gun."
"That’s my point," Oliver replied.
The episode segment was the first of three that Oliver has filmed while on assignment in Australia, and has since been widely shared online.[/quote]
http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current%20series/tandi/261-280/tandi269/view%20paper.html
Gun violence did noticeably decline in Australia, as information.
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2 RepliesPart 2.
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Very amusing, why can't some people just accept they've been out-debated?
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3 RepliesEdited by Spartan Ken 15: 4/23/2013 10:19:41 PMI see that quote was taken greatly out of context
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3 RepliesSometimes i wonder if you guys took basic Geography The problem is not the guns...It's the god damn urbanization in the U.S and things like Generalization ect Also people feel like they are getting left behind by the Gov't so they go to gang's for money...
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2 RepliesSo basically he's saying the US is the only place in the 'real world' lol idiots who can't accept loss in an argument
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2 RepliesIt appears I'm actually an AI construct made to think I was human. Oh well. Anti gun control people seem to be getting weirder and weirder...
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2 RepliesOK, so? You realise those interviews are a joke, right?
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It's metaphorical you ignorant -blam!-.
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2 RepliesEdited by Morto: 4/23/2013 8:48:57 AMHere's the video. It's pretty great.
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Gun Massacres Gun Murders Can't stop them both.
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Australian gun control? WAVE GOODBYE TO YOUR HEAD WANKER!
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I know Australians can be hard to understand, but wow.
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2 Replieswho is your avatar ?
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7 RepliesAustralia became worse off overall because of the bans. Especially home robberies.
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25 RepliesHe was on THE DAILY SHOW of all places and clearly engaging in hyperbole, and now we're going to twist that with a literal interpretation? The anti-gun crowd continues to display it's intellectual deficiencies.
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6 RepliesGun Lobbyists where retards anyway, YOU DONT NEED YOUR GUNS AMERICA!
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3 RepliesNot a lot of people owned guns in Australia to begin with. Also crime has been decreasing in America without these strict gun laws and doesn't have much more violent crime than Australia or the UK. As for the retard mentioned in the OP he is probably just some NRA gun nut/tard.
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Australia barely had guns to begin with Nor was it built on a gun loving society
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1 Reply[quote]Mr Van Cleave then backed himself into a corner by saying "unless you can get rid of 100 percent of crime, it's not worth doing anything at all."[/quote] This man just went full retard.
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who cares Next stupid and irrelevant news article please!
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Edited by Bolt: 4/23/2013 9:44:19 PMThose that against gun control seem to be the most persuasive activists [I]for[/I] gun control, and the opposite is true as well (someone get that Obama Gun Salesman of the Year pic in here). I take that as evidence that no one on either side knows what they're talking about. Of course, that can already be determined by the fact that, at best, they're political science majors talking about statistics.
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What a -blam!-ing shithead. 'MERICA
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Edited by Egerspurge: 4/23/2013 9:38:33 PM[quote]the Daily Show[/quote] srs bznis
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lol idiot
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Stupid people are stupid.
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That is f*cking stupid.