I’m just going to be giving feedback to the Gambit twab point by point. This is more for Bungie than other Destiny players, but feel free to chime in if you have thoughts and want to have a civil and intelligent discussion. - Freelance Mode Honestly, I feel like this alone does most of the work in addressing the common Gambit complaints. Solos don’t want to get stomped by teams, and teams can now play competitively without stomping Solos who just want to have fun. If this was the only change I think it would satisfy the average Destiny player, for while heavy ammo inconsistencies and invasions are annoying, the real problem for the average Destiny player in Gambit is running into a stacked, organized team. No specific preference here. - More Randomness in the Spawning of Enemy Waves I see this as a good and a bad. In one sense, this is great because it makes each game a little more different and interesting to play. However, it does remove the mastery that comes with learning a particular enemies spawn rotations and combatants types on particular maps. I will be sad to lose the rhythm I have developed, but I don’t this is that big of a deal in the long run. Because enemy AI is predictable, this is kind of one of the only ways to add in PvE variety. - More Respawn Points Generally I am against adding more layers of randomness on the side of the player, but I think this will be good. Not having to trek across the entire map to re-engage will be nice, as well as keep the invader on their toes when killing during invasions. Additionally, it is a buff to the invader in an area they needed it most. As much as the average player won’t like to hear it, the reality is that the Invader is actually quite weak. All it takes is one attentive player to ruin an invasion off of spawn. Have an organized team, and you almost never have to worry about an invasion. Just as players respawning in more locations will keep invaders on their toes, so too will more invader spawns keep defenders on their toes. This should keep Gambit invasions more engaging and less frustrating in general, but only time will tell. - Dropping Half Motes on Death Generally I like this, as it adds a little more to the invader as far as options when invading, while also allowing good players to reclaim motes from the blueberries who keep dying with 15 (don’t fret, blueberries, we still like you). However, it will make invading against a good team a little less impactful, so it is a nerf to invasions but only to the invasions of the losing team, which is not the kind of invasions that we should want to be nerfed. Not sure how this will play out. - Player Revives and Enemy Shields Nothing to say on the player revives. It should just be a nice quality of life change. Personally I really like the enemy shields change. Lately I’ve been annoyed that Bungie’s method of making enemies tougher is to simply increase their health from red bar to orange or yellow and have them do more damage while they have an entire elemental shield mechanic sitting off to the side unused. Tougher shields instead of more orange and yellow bars is a good thing, as it makes enemies tougher without making them bullet sponges and allows the shield breaking side of a guardians build to be more impactful. Personally I’d love to see more shields in PvE as a whole. Not asking for the craziness of match game, gust something in between that and unshielded bullet sponges. - Blocker Changes The health and attack changes of the blockers seem like they will be a good change. I’ve always thought that the 5 mote blockers did their job well, but the 10 mote blocker always felt weak. I still think they could have brought down the 15 mote blocker’s health, but I like the added threat of a stasis attack. Motes draining during a primeval phase seems interesting and could be a good catchup mechanic for losing teams without screwing over a winning teams earned lead. We’ll see how this one plays out. I’m conflicted about the mote drain being paused while defenders are dealing with them. I see it as a very good change for the more casual half of the player-base, but a bad one for the upper half. Depending on what exactly “near the bank” and “engaged with a blocker” mean, as far as distance and interaction, mote drain could basically be nonexistent in most games. However, if you have to be very close to the bank and actively attacking a blocker, not just plinking it every now and then from scout or pulse rifle range, I could see this being okay. Again, we’ll have to wait and see. - Ammo Changes I hate and love this change. Making the ammo frequency between teams more equal is the exact change I’ve been wanting for a while. HOWEVER, this change might very well make heavy spam WORSE and not better. Instead of balancing the teams by giving everyone more heavy, I think it would have been better to have almost no heavy until primeval phase. The “small amount of special and heavy ammo” from the front chests better be real small, like really small, one rocket small, or the one-shot / heavy-spam shenanigans that people hate will only happen more often. I like that minions no longer randomly drop heavy, but I don’t like that heavy is guaranteed after each wave. As a PvP analogy, this is like balancing Lorentz by giving snipers more aim assist and Chaperone more range. Just because everyone is at equal power does NOT mean that the game mode is balanced. I fear for this change. - Primeval Changes First off, hallelujah the meatball is gone. I know there are developers out there that worked hard on that boss, but I personally like neither the mechanics nor the appearance of that boss. Pleased to see it gone. As far as the envoys and primeval stacks change, I am all for it. I liked Gambit Prime’s method of boss damage way more than base and current Gambit. While the quick melt is satisfying, it also gets boring really fast. A more engaging boss fight is one I am looking forward too, and I still think good teams will absolutely melt the boss just as fast. Looking forward to these changes (EDIT): ImOnlyBleeding mentioned how the envoy changes could give an advantage to pre-made teams and hinder a team of solos or casuals. I didn't think of this before, and it is an important point to make. It very well could end up being a bad change for the average player, but I still think it is a good one for Gambit in the end. - Invasions Now it’s time for me to draw the ire if the average player. I like that level advantage won’t exist. I like that you can’t stockpile invasion, as that was oppressive in the same way super snowballing in crucible is. I don’t mind losing wall hacks when ADS. BUT, I don’t like that there are less invasions. Again, as much as people don’t like to hear it, the invader role is actually the weakest one in Gambit. The reason it often feels like it hurts so much is due to coming up against an organized team while you have blueberries or simply getting unlucky with ammo drops, neither of which are inherent problems with invasions. Now the invader has less opportunity to be effective and can’t do their job, which isn’t to wipe the whole team. An invaders job is to kill mote carriers and provide a moment for their team to catch up or take the lead. I don't like this change, and I don’t even generally play the invader roll (Sentry was my Prime preference). They’re making an already weak role weaker when the issue isn’t the invader role itself but the heavy ammo economy and solo versus team issue. While the latter will be better with freelance, the former, as I mentioned before, is most likely only going to get worse. (EDIT): Xero has convinced me that not being able to see specific mote amounts is not really that big of an issue. Look at his post below to see. Additionally, see my final comment with Stardust Hyena to get a better understanding of what I mean by calling an Invader weak. - Rewards I like rewards and I dislike excessive rng, therefore I like these changes. - Labs I’m looking forward to testing these out. Invasion Swap is one I think they should have tried out a long time ago, and I’m all for Mote Thief and invasion changes that make the invader a threat to be dealt with and not just something to be avoided. - Conclusion So those are my thoughts. Obviously no one knows for sure what will be good or bad until we have it in our hands, but feedback is still feedback. I also want to say that, as much as I may have ragged on some of the changes I didn’t like, I still very much appreciate the developers at Bungie who created, tested, and are shipping these changes. Bungie could have easily sunset Gambit and then never had to deal with it ever again, but the fact that they spent this much time reworking the mode to the extent that they did is very encouraging as a Gambit fan. Whether these changes are exactly what Gambit needs or completely disastrous, I want to say thank you to the devs who put so much work into this. Looking forward to the future. - a Reckoner (EDIT): I just want to say thank you to everyone who has replied! I've really enjoyed seeing the engagement, and it has been a joy to see so many other Reckoners in the replies.