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1/3/2022 9:26:01 PM
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Overload Bows in Master Lost Sectors Suck

I'm trying to complete a master lost sector for Necrotic Grip, and I was using Trinity Ghoul for Arc Shields and Overload Champions. It sucks. I stun the Champion, but I can't deal enough damage in 5 seconds to actually make an effect before it regenerates. And once it isn't stunned, it [b]STAYS [/b]not stunned. I can shoot it with Overload arrows as many times as I want, but it will just keep running towards me and then kill me. I know it is a Master Lost Sector, and supposed to be difficult, but for people who haven't got the amount of gear as more powerful players, it's near impossible . . . If you're going to put 6 Champions in one lost sector, at least let me defeat [b]ONE [/b]of them.
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  • Le Monarque is a better choice.

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  • it's not impossible - it's a change of mindset. Try varying up your loadouts - or if you have 1k, it tends to melt champions before they can recover

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    • Edited by Nicky-Powers: 1/5/2022 7:16:06 PM
      Play the way YOU want as long as it has a bow or a sword involved. lol I hate the barrier system as it is. Make it a universal mod or someting or make it to where anti barrier = kinetic, over load = energy slot, unstoppable = heavy. or something idk. The match game on energy shields seems to be pretty easy to work around why not make weapon slots the barrier requirements so we can use whatever the hell we want on a loadout as a whole?

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    • Bow with explosive works well: can either keep hitting with bow to gradually kill or finish with a sword. Arbalest, explosive bow and caster sword is a good combination now for barrier and overload.

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    • Trinity is bugged. You can only stun Champs but unlike other bows it won't stop the healing process.

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    • The exact same thing happens to me, to kill it I used a stasis turret and blew ALL my heavy ammo killing it

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      • Bows are great for stunning Overloads, in fact they're my favorite. Follow these rules and you'll have no problem 1) Make sure to get a full draw on the bow Practice drawing your bow with an overload mod equipped. Look above your super bar and notice when it says 'overload shot'. Get to know the visual and audio cues of the bow. The bow will flash and make a sound when fully drawn. Each bow is different. 2) Keep nailing the Champion with the bow Don't let up. Shoot fully drawn arrow after fully drawn arrow at it 3) Learn to recognize when the Champion is stunnable After a Champion has been stunned and recovers it gets a 'grace period' where you [i]cannot[/i] restun him. Practice on a Champion until you can tell when he can be stunned just by looking at him. The Champion will come out of stun and have a glow around him. At this point he can't be stunned, hit him with one or two fully drawn arrows and WAIT, with bow fully drawn. You'll see the glow around him flash. As soon as you see that, the second you see that flash, BAM! Let loose yout drawn bow and you'll stun em. Every. Single. Time. 4) Be humble, look for the signs and get to know your weapon and your prey Don't say to yourself 'yeah, yeah, yeah, I know all that stuff, I'm doing everything right, It's not me it's the game!'. It takes practice, allow yourself to fail. It's a skill and learning a new skill takes time. Every time a Champion gets away and regains health [b]record a clip[/b]. play the clip back and see where you made a mistake. Was your bow fully drawn? Did you hit early or late. Find out what you did wrong and correct it. Truth hurts sometimes but if you set the ego aside you'll learn Good Luck🍀

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      • Edited by Sir_Latvia: 1/5/2022 5:19:22 PM
        Arbalest for damage and all shields. Bow to stun overload. Then put on rocket with perks that are best for that sector! Chain reaction or lasting impression is good. Either more ad clear additional dps on 1 target. Also you can put on a sword and passive guard for extra survivability.

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      • Edited by llSpAxXll: 1/4/2022 10:06:32 AM
        You must be kidding. Bows are one of, if not *most consistent* methode of stunning overload champs thus far in the game. Use a range special or heavy to obliterate one before they can recover. Utilize cover and corners to peek shoot and you should be fine. Good luck 👍

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        • Works fine for me...

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        • You know I never knew dragonfly explosions on overload bows stun overload Champs until today. It's been pretty helpful.

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        • Stun with a bow deal dmg with a linear fusion, trinity ghoul is excellent for ad control and for stunning champions, but it's not a high dmg weapon.

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        • Switch to Le Bigmac, and take something different for arc shields. It's the most consistent bow for dealing with overload champions.

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          • The entire champion model sucks. They said they sunset all the legacy stuff to encourage more diverse loadouts, then make champions that can only be beaten by certain weapons 🤣 And anti-barrier auto blows

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          • Edited by WulfPak666: 1/4/2022 5:41:37 PM
            Only good Overload Bows are Le Monarque and Ticcu's Divination. Why you may ask? Because as long as the burn affect is on the Overload, they can be restunned by it and it prevents them from regenerating health. All other bows are 👎

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            • Having this long season has put a spotlight on how really poor the sandbox functions no one can possibly enjoy running endgame content with these load outs they are basically cutting player engagement with these play our way systems

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            • I stun them and then blast them with a rocket launcher. Works almost every time.

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            • Edited by SalladCowboys: 1/5/2022 7:12:01 AM
              [quote]I'm trying to complete a master lost sector for Necrotic Grip, and I was using Trinity Ghoul for Arc Shields and Overload Champions. It sucks. I stun the Champion, but I can't deal enough damage in 5 seconds to actually make an effect before it regenerates. And once it isn't stunned, it [b]STAYS [/b]not stunned. I can shoot it with Overload arrows as many times as I want, but it will just keep running towards me and then kill me. I know it is a Master Lost Sector, and supposed to be difficult, but for people who haven't got the amount of gear as more powerful players, it's near impossible . . . If you're going to put 6 Champions in one lost sector, at least let me defeat [b]ONE [/b]of them.[/quote] I haven't used overload bows at all this season as disruptive blade and passive guard is a great combo, but i did bay of drowned wishes last night and used whispering slab with vorpal and it worked a treat, you just need to make sure you're heavy is ready to fire when its stunned.

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            • Edited by Emurinus: 1/5/2022 5:18:16 AM
              Overloads won't regenerate or spam abilities so long as you keep pumping overload rounds into them, even when they are unstunned and can move/shoot around again. That aside... While Overloads are often the most (rightfully) complained about though, champions as a whole just aren't fun. They're just a combination of the worst aspects of PvE (nonstop ability spam and bullet sponges) and creating restrictive mods built explicitly to counter then doesn't suddenly rectify that. While the concept of them is completely fine, both the mods and entities themselves need complete overhauls.

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            • Edited by Meatbaag: 1/5/2022 2:26:46 AM
              withering heat on your class item. overload sword. drop solar grenade on overload and start swinging. run sunbracers for improved solar grenade. good luck guardian.

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            • Yeah, like others are saying, use le moncq the exotic void bow, even if they have arc shields, just keep dropping the poison on them, they will die eventually. And trust me, I agree with you. Having BEYOND limited loadouts for LLS and MLS is fun ruining. It’s why I really only run them to get a copy of the exotic and then never again till a (NON-RETROACTIVE) triumph shows up that needs it. And it’s very dumb it is not retroactive

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            • Everytime I need overload bow I use le monarque (yes I know I probably spelled it wrong). Best bow for overloads.

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            • Edited by xilxad: 1/4/2022 11:33:59 PM
              Yep, this is part of the totally obvious artificially increased play time, i have done lots of these lost sectors and wasn’t real keen on doing more but thought i would try for the nothing manacles. After five or six tries i was bored stiff and just quit. I had the same problem with the champions, this season and all the others as well. Instead of anything fun or cool to do bungie stuffs this garbage with items locked behind nearly never-ending repetition.

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            • The champion won't regenerate if you keep shooting it with the bow, it straight up stop the regen from happening all together

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              • User error

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              • User error. Someone in another thread was struggling with OL champs in Perdition and they were also using Trinity Ghoul. So I equipped Trinity Ghoul and hit the Perdition Master lost sector. Zero issues with OL champs. https://i.imgur.com/VflhXMu.mp4

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