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Edited by hate n payne: 7/24/2021 11:53:54 AM
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Skill and Destiny should never be combined in a sentence

After the 120 change, you see a little bit of diversity but what most players arent stating is the increase and abundance of teamshooting and cheesiness. In this current state, there is no way anyone with enough common sense and sanity would jump into this game. PVP is garbage. Gambit is garbage. PVE content is rehashed and terrible. Loot is basically non existent and doesnt appeal as much as it used to. Primary engagement and solo hero moments are a thing of the past and most players need a helping hand or a special to perform. The one thing that doesnt exist is “skill”. I dont even have to play Trials nor Comp to come to this realization and the thing is this game has been lacking in the “skill” department for a while now. This is coming from someone who is still rocking Double Primaries most of the time in PVP. So if someone criticizes you about your kd or stats, pay them absolutely no mind. Their kd and stats are build on the very foundation of cheesiness while METAing and teamshooting. I just did a match on Anomaly and the other team was all Hunters running around with shotguns and teamshooting with Hand Cannons like they are competing for the D2 League. I initially was using a Bow and False Promises to see if False Promises could handle the current sandbox. Against a bunch of average players or players have fun, I am sure I can hold my own with it but when you solo engage an opponent only for their teammates to show up like in a game of Rumble and ruin the engagement, it showcases how individual skill is no longer a factor in this game. So I switched to the Chattering Bone and needless to say, I didnt lose not one single engagement from that point forward. This game has continue to lose its lust in gunplay due to the competitive scene introducing boring Trials strats to win engagement in a non competitive game. I get everyone wants to win but this is beyond boring now in terms of gameplay and gunplay. There is diversity somewhat in weapons now but the diversity in playstyles are alarming because everyone seems to play like their life is on the line and it vastly similiar to each other. I pray S15 addresses the boredom by applying the old D1 way of stats where your assists mean nothing and the only way your stats will grow is by your own merit. We need fun back in the game and way more diversity and playstyles than what is currently seen. We need bigger maps and better lobby balancing more than anything and it can start with bringing back Combined Arms as the permanent non competitive playlist while making stacked teams face each other.
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  • Well they say S15 will mostly be major sandbox updates but we’ll see. Only a month to go.

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    • I will never understand the argument of why people get mad at others for trying their best. They want to WIN. They’re having fun and are good at the game. Why would you be mad at that?

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      • I mean controller aims for you.

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        • Or Destiny & fun should never be in the same sentence

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          • Did it ever? I mean Destiny was never Halo. Your current list of gripes could just as easily be replaced by the gripes of three years ago. What if they just canceled the Crucible altogether? Focus on pve which is really the only meaningful hook this game has. Make pvp a shared lootable zone where players can either work cooperatively or against one another.

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            • When people try and point to a player’s KD to make their point you realize they don’t understand how the game works. Anyone can farm a huge mountain of fake stats, that isn’t a skill. KD is a reflection of team performance not individual skill, but some people base their whole ego on it.

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              • This pvp is 80% the weapon, mod, perk, exotic, super you have equipped + 20% skill.

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                • But you just did…

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                • The skill gap definitely exists. Every game is going to have a skill gap. I know saying destiny takes no skill is an exaggeration for the sake of argument, but speaking realistically, it does. It is quite clear what sets a good player apart from the rest. The thing is, it is the smallest skillgap in any game I have ever played. The highest floor and the lowest ceiling. You can go from a casual to a top 1% player in a few months if you just play the game and get used to the feel of the movement and the aiming. It is not a very hard game to be good at, by any standard.

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                  • So take a break. It’ll be good for you

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                    • Edited by Cho: 7/21/2021 10:51:16 PM
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                      Sure destiny pvp may be casual but there is most definitely a skill gap, it’s just a low skill floor to a low skill ceiling. Why else do some players thrive while others don’t do as well?

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                      • Tru, but two words that SHOULD be used for D2.. [spoiler]Best. Waifu.[/spoiler]

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                        • I agree with your statement… And actually, higher skilled players are really the only ones that are having their “skills” tested in PvP. This was by the Sherpa community’s request. They begged for higher crit damage and connection based match making over skill based. This favored the skilled… but in return, favors the mod users and cheaters as well. Favoring crit damage as much as this game does narrows the loot pool, the builds we grind for and the fun. There will always be cheesy stuff in this game… But without a proper skill based match making and increased body damage on non overly meta weapons.. this is how the game will continue to be.

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                          • Hand holding is very dominant in destiny these days I’ll agree there and I never understand why people brag about stats. Stats are so easy to obtain. Just play in a group on comms and pub stomp. It doesn’t say how good you are in crucial 1v1 situations. Stats are not detailed enough to be relevant in my opinion

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                            • Edited by OG (117): 7/21/2021 2:22:33 PM
                              I agree. Those who can take advantage of the AA and cones will do well, that’s why people use hand cannons, they’re headshot magnets.

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                              • I still reckon your double-barrelled SG idea would counter this, plus an SMG in the other hand.....I wonder what the reload animation would be like though? BTW scouring the vault for more Sunset weapons....Good grief, I found the KHVOSTOV 7G-02 LOL! I wonder how many Hunters with Felwinters I can get with this thing.....hmmmmmm You're dead right about skill + Destiny being separate LOL!! How about lunacy + Destiny in the same breath instead? Cheers Guardian!

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                                • There is skill in the game.... If you hate it so much with how the game is go away and shut up with your non stop whiny posts.

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