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12/29/2020 5:10:42 PM
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Please post screenshots of all your Destiny 2 Video Settings. In general ensure the Render Resolution at the bottom is set to at most 100% and HDR is disabled. Otherwise, download the latest GPU driver, download DDU from Guru3D, launch DDU in safe-mode and remove the current driver, be sure to check the option to disable the Windows Driver installations. Once the driver is uninstalled, reboot into windows normally and reinstall the latest driver. Last issue may be related to power consumption issues with the newer card, Ensure you are not daisy chaining the 8 Pin power to the GPU and each 8-pin connector is coming directly off the PSU. Meaning your PSU must be able to supply at least 300W to the GPU to the 2x 8 pin connectors (150W each) on top of the rest of the PC load (CPU, Storage, RAM, Fans, RGB, etc). To diagnose power related GPU issues, download GPU-Z from TechPowerUp. Launch the game in Windowed mode and click the sensors tab in GPU-Z. Check to see if there is a PerfCap Reason other than VRel. eg: Rel = Reliability. Indicating perf is limited by reliability voltage. (Normal) VOp = Operating. Indicating perf is limited by max operating voltage. Pwr = Power. Indicating perf is limited by total power limit. Thrm = Thermal. Indicating perf is limited by temperature limit. Util = Utilization. Indicating perf is limited by GPU utilization..
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  • Edited by Nylss: 1/1/2021 7:01:17 PM
    I reinstalled the drivers and now i can add major lag in the menu and world map to the list... I dont know where i need to check for PerfCap reason. My PSU is a 700w Bequiet Pure Power 10. I can run Cyberpunk with overclocked cpu and gpu so i dont think thats the issue. I attached some screenshots. Unfortunaly, you cant see the overlay on the ingame screenshots. But it showed 40% Gpu usage, 30% cpu usage and 7,4 gb ram usage in both scenarios. In those screenshots i selected first highest settings on 1440p and then low at the lowest resolution possible. HDR was turned off, no frame cap and 100% resolution scale. https://ibb.co/PThK3TH https://ibb.co/0cNJLBb https://ibb.co/LvxhVRN https://ibb.co/Dgjkt8q https://ibb.co/5W0LNfj https://ibb.co/k3hz9cF

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  • Edited by fyrye: 1/2/2021 5:30:50 PM
    Did you use DDU to uninstall in safe-mode and prevent Windows Driver installation, prior to restarting and installing the latest driver? Sometimes windows will install the driver in parallel. For the other sensors, you would need to go into the GPU-Z settings (top right ≡) -> sensors, and enable the checkboxes. In the non-ROG version all of the sensors are enabled by default. Lastly make sure the game has focus (is not in the background) when you take the screenshot with the print screen button on your keyboard. Otherwise the load on the GPU will be reduced as seen in your screen shots at 800Mhz GPU clock. Since your GPU is supposed to be running at 1815 MHz. For me highest preset at 1440p on my RTX 3070 system. https://imgur.com/a/oHR9Y0b Edit: Misread 2x8 GB as 8 GB, so that's not an issue. Cyberpunk uses a different engine than Destiny, so you can not compare game titles in the same way. For example if Destiny requires more of a CPU load, the combined PSU load may be starving your GPU of power, but with out the perfCap reason we can't see why your GPU is at 800 MHz. However based on the posted CPU usage, that shouldn't be the case either. One other option that may help is completely uninstalling and reinstalling Destiny and then defragmenting if it is installed on a HDD and not a SSD. In the past I have had issues with framerate due to fragmentation of the game files.

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  • Edited by Nylss: 1/3/2021 7:42:52 PM
    First of all thanks for trying to help me. I used DDU in safe mode, just as you said. But i dont know how to keep windows from installing the driver on its own, nor do i know how to tell if it did. There was a black flickering bar after the removal of the drivers. During the driver-installation via the radeon software it went away. Regarding this perfcap reason thing, I found that this is a Nvidia only feature and Amd does not suport it. I redid the screenshot but this time the game is in focus. The screenshots where taken 2 seconds apart. And i dont think the Gpu is lacking power since it has the same tdp as my old gpu. Edit: I forgot to mention that I installed this game on a clean windows installation. My HDD is, according to the analyzer tool, 1% fragmented. So i dont think thats the issue aswell... I attached the screenshots here: https://ibb.co/2PSqGgq https://ibb.co/pQWxfvm

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  • Edited by fyrye: 1/3/2021 9:06:25 PM
    To ensure the Windows drivers aren't borking your manual driver install, in the DDU options, there is an setting to enable that prevents Windows automatic driver installs. You can undo it later if desired. https://imgur.com/a/5JP0Zrp I also suggest getting the latest Windows Updates prior to going through the DDU process again. It's strange but there have been issues with specific driver capabilities being compatible with only newer Windows version releases. The read-out on your Resource Monitor to the right for the memory hard faults is flatlined at 0, so you're fine there. The "[i]100 hard faults/sec[/i]" is describing how each graph line is displayed in vertical increments. The 1700 MHz @ 70% utilization is a lot better looking than the original 800 MHz, but still lower than the 1815 MHz spec or 2105 MHz boost. The GPU power draw being only 58W is way below spec of the 250W TDP for you card though. You should be seeing ~100W and ~85% utilization. For testing purposes though, be sure to leave it on the highest graphics preset @ 1440p, since that is your desired end-result. Just because your previous card had the same TDP, doesn't mean that the draw of the new GPU would be the same, given the configuration of the Motherboard, CPU, GPU, and PSU combination. Another free diagnostic tool to see some more of the power consumption of your system would be HWMonitor from CPUID. That way we could see where more of the power consumption is occurring. https://imgur.com/0hcoGa8 1% of 1024000 is quite a bit in terms of file placement fragmentation for game assets on a HDD. It wouldn't hurt anything but consume some time to try to uninstall/reinstall Destiny 2 and defrag though after reinstall. Again only if it is on a HDD [b]NOT a SSD[/b] since defragging an SSD just kills the lifespan. I personally use Defraggler from Piriform/CCleaner. In my previous use-case I saw a 1% fragmentation with a 30 FPS framerate loss in Diablo 2, after defrag the framerate loss went away. However, I have seen very very strange issues with computers, for example a HDD PCB causing a BSOD with a DVD-RW installation, we swapped the PCB with an identical drive and it resolved the issue. So I no longer doubt any possibilities. I am fairly convinced this may be an AMD driver + Destiny 2 related issue though, but I can go through more advanced settings, I am just initially covering the more common and less intricate issues I have seen.

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  • So I reinstalled the driver once again- this time with windows driver installation turned off. I also defragged the hdd after reinstalling the game. But nothing has changed. I realized that in missions i get around 100fps but with regular and heavy micro stutters. In the tower i cant get past 70 with an average of 50. This is at 1440p. I really hope bungie will fix this... https://ibb.co/Tvypcqf

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  • Edited by fyrye: 1/6/2021 6:37:32 PM
    I'm seeing other posts with your GPU that others report as having no issues. Can you include the motherboard power usages from HWMonitor? You can collapse all the other things. Regarding the stutters, by chance Is your CPU, Memory or GPU overclocked at all? If so, try running your rig at factory defaults and set your memory configuration in the BIOS to use the XMP profile. IIRC, there is another BIOS setting that can affect AMD Ryzen 5 CPUs, I'll have to check what that was since I don't have an AMD board on-hand atm. If using OC software like the ASUS AI Suite or MSI Afterburner, uninstall it temporarily before resetting the BIOS to defaults. See if that resolves the stuttering issues.

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