I think it is very important to acknowledge 3 things for this to make sense 1. The darkness is a force/entity of unknown (possibly extra-dimensional) origin 2. The “bomb logic” is a philosophy specific to mara sov and the awoken and is there for a philosophy of grey 3. The light has forever attempted to protect its charges and create as Toland put it “a gentle place ringed in spears” it has also sought to spread its influence. So what is the end goal of the light? The darkness seeks to become the only thing left in the universe by killing everything else and become the final perfect shape. The light having always sought to create “a gentle place ringed in Spears” must follow one of two philosophies. The first is a shield logic which is similar to the bomb logic yet diametrically opposed to the sword logic. The goal of this shield logic is to create a idea/ place/society that is so complex and interwoven and diverse that no single idea no matter how refined(the sword logic) can break it. This makes sense in light of the lumina as it heals teammates and connects you to them. This complex thing could even outlast everything else in the universe. The second is what I refer to as the creation logic, the creation logic. This goal is similar to the shield logic but much more expansion based, the goal of this philosophy is to become the foundation of everything in the universe, this is strongly supported by the way the traveler constantly seeks out civilizations and builds them up, the goal is that these civilizations of which the traveler is the very foundation of would spread pushing all other sentient life till the light is the very foundation of all life in the universe. This is supported by the way the hive seek to hunt and destroy every light based civilization before it develops. Though I find this less likely in light of recent developments. Now we also have to consider how the philosophies of other groups fit in the mains ones being. The traveler is not good: none of these things make the traveler the good guy for humanity as it has abandoned numerous failed attempts The balance: these philosophies are both diametrically opposed to darkness (though I don’t agree with ulan-tan) The bomb logic: the bomb logic very heavily supports the shield logic as the bomb logic is the use of many various ideas on things to destroy something, this combines the lights complexity and the darkness’s destruction. (It also helps explain why guardians can use the sword logic because it can be incorporated into that complexity) we also used this with the blighted light to kill oryx, so as that was light and darkness so is this, this is a philosophy of balance Saint-14: his views on the darkness at this point seem rather outdated in light of newer information. The nine: the nines ideology is very close to the darkness but not the same, I believe the nine are a bit like the awoken philosophically however I think the awoken are a it more on the side of the light and the nine a bit more on the side of the darkness Humans: I think it’s very important to note the difference between what the light wants and what humans want, I believe that at some point in the interest of humanity the light will have to go at some point, many groups have been seen who support humanity and not the traveler and I don’t think it has our best interests at heart Both of these are also supported by the travelers terraforming