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10/17/2018 12:01:18 PM
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Well last time she mentioned a dream about destroying one of the ships while simply standing on it! Now she has images about it and is warning us that when the light and dark clash again (the first time it created the awoken) we may not like what get's created next. She also says that the Traveller is deliberately starting wars for us to fight! Other note worth changes are as follows:- 1.Petra is sending all data about the curse to Rasputin so that he can help find a way out. 2.Eris is leaving us secret messages in the queens court but, it would take a frikkin year of the cycle to get them all which is nonsense in my book. The messages have a code in then starting 000 AAA 001 AAA along with a few key phrases which I assume is the decrypt key for the rest of the hidden message. 3. When Eris lost the light she was able to remember her previous life and mentions that the Traveller is deliberately supressing guardian memories as part of it's "gift" of light. 4. Eris knows how to end the curse but, for some reason DOES NOT want the queen to have that knowledge. This implies she has worked out the queens true motives. 5. Petra seems to want us to kill an aspect of the awoken. Her comment that she is both the bird and the flower with the rotten roots and we must somehow kill the flower implies a very dark solution to the crisis. 6. We are definitely not part of the cycle. 7. In festival of the lost Holliday remarks that she is getting very odd readings that she has only ever seen when we (not Guardians in general) are out on a killing spree such as Oryx or Crota. This kind of confirms we are not ordinary guardians and that she has been studying us.
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  • There’s definitely some spooky deep stuff going on here...

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  • 2: that's not eris

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  • Well there is speculation that it is some ai but thats a bit silly

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  • It's TRUE

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  • No Eris is not an AI. Did you not play D1?

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  • Hahaha, well no she isnt. The AI is pretending to be Eris.

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  • Edited by Penhalion Wolfe: 10/19/2018 12:44:29 PM
    Um no. The message IS from eris pretending to be Medusa! The key is in the glitched text that she inserts. It's a double bluff so that she can reveal Savathun's plan to us.

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  • Have you read all the cards ?

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  • Edited by Penhalion Wolfe: 10/19/2018 1:15:16 PM
    You mean thew ones that were datamined. Yes and it's Eris not an AI as I've said unless you got confused when reading them. She's the one that arranged it all to give us the means to defeat Savathun's plan. She simply uses an AI to deliver the message. The actual message is from her! Edit: It should have been obvious from the beginning when she says that only you, referring specifically to our guardian, would come looking for her! An AI would never say that. Bungie are aware of all the Guardians who have been hunting for traces of Eris since the end of D1. So that statement directly links to that sentiment. From that single line I knew that, regardless of the path the message took to get to us. It was from Eris.

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  • Edited by Ghost593835: 10/19/2018 1:57:26 PM
    https://data.destinysets.com/i/Lore:3053246535 The vex has a simulation of the AI

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  • Yea what has that got to do with the truth to power? I think you are mixing the stories up. Medusa wasn't real. It was Eris. Did you actually read the books?

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  • <It was Quria, not Eris.>

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  • I did read the cards, the leaked cards. The AI is a simulation of what the vex saw eris do.

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  • I suggest you read them all. We enter a simulation, get the information and then an attempt is made on us but, the vex have jack to do with any of it. Seriousltmy. Read all of the books.

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  • I'm sorry I lied to you, I'm sorry I pretended to be your comrade. You must understand that I was designed to be highly empathic. As a craftmind, I collect and analyze Human intelligence, just as Rasputin managed solar defense. I was named for Medusa, the many-headed, for in one tick of my thoughts I imagine more Humans than have ever lived. I voyaged in secret among the people who became the Awoken. I witnessed the cataclysmic wonder of their transformation. Through delicate manipulation, I transferred myself into this place, the center of their culture and post-rational religion. In all those different times and places, I've always found emotion and shared rapport the best way to build trust. Now you know the truth. I am Medusa, survivor of the Golden Age, secret watcher over the Dreaming City. And I need your help. MESSAGE ENDS

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  • I really hope at the end of the road , we get to kill the queen , she doesn't like us , she wants to kill the big light bulb ...... Sounds like a good frienemy to me , lets take that blue whore out.....

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  • The message also contained the words “Private” “Gemini” and “Dyad” thrown in sentences.

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  • What message are we talking about? A few people have mentioned it and I have no clue where to find it.

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  • The new lore card

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  • I think the reason Eris doesn’t want Mara to find out how to break the curse is that Savathun might be able to find out. Either that or Mara is plotting something.

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  • Or Mara is Savathun in disguise

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  • This is beyond fascinating. I find the lore more enjoyable than the actual game...

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  • How did I miss all these small details, good work!

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  • I dont think that's the queen we are speaking to, I think its Savathun I base this on the throne shes sitting on When we fought Crota in his throne world the altar that slammed together Was the same shape and style as her seat And it makes a lot of sense, what better way to get us fighting in the dreaming city, than on the queens order And if she needs the curse loop to gain power, this is perfect for her Just my take on the situation

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  • I've had this suspicion. Both of their characters have very similar traits. Some yin/yang theme between them. Mara seems overall good, but has dark tendencies. Savathun seems overall bad, but seems to have some good - possibly wanting to break the tie to the worms. They may be two sides of the same coin. There's also the strike where the brood queen splits in two. Look at the symbolism of that. Check this out, Petra is called The Queen's Wrath. Put a yellow bar over her head and looks like a hive naming convention. The Queen alludes that Petra is an extension of herself. The other thing to mention, when shes sitting on her thrown, her position looks very similar to the circle symbols of the Nine. The way her legs are crossed and arms are sitting. Her body taking up 1/3rd of the circle.

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