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10/10/2018 6:54:01 PM
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Competetive matchmaking is absolutely bonkers
Ever since I started playing comp (in order to get the Luna's Howl hand cannon) I have been noticing a few trends with how the matchmaking works.
Most matches are rigged. If you think you have an equal chance of winning the match, you're most likely wrong.
1. Individual performance across multiple matches will determine what skill level your teammates will be at when you enter the next lobby. If you're doing well, you will receive sub-par teammates, in hopes that you will be able to carry them. If you're doing poorly, you will be teamed up with 1-2 skilled players.
2. Connection quality has very low priority. I have witnessed countless instances where an enemy on the opposing team appears to be using a lag-switch (teleporting, negating incoming damage, etc.) but when confronted, denies all claims sincerely.
3. Full fireteams have a very high chance of being matched against solo players. As a solo player, you will be matched against fireteams of 3 or 4, roughly 60% of the time. Once matching with a full fireteam, your teammates that fill in behind will be hot garbage for no reason (this one I don't really understand too well).
4. Glory rank has 0 value when matching against teams of 2 or more, due to the fact that a player with 0 glory is able to join in on someone of 5500 glory. As long as the player with 0 glory is the leader, his fireteam will match with other players of similar glory (as long as those players are also the lead of their fireteam).
5. Streaks don't exist for solo players of decent skill, as all of the above systems will prevent that from happening. Streaks are against the rules for decently-skilled solo players, and if any such streak should exist, it will be swiftly ended upon entering the next match.
Solo players of decent skill (the majority of PvP players who play comp) get screwed over thanks to all of the systems in place, in favor of extending the longevity of the grind towards higher rank. I just can't believe it took me this long to realize what was going on behind the scenes in the matchmaking.
Thank you for your time. Updoot for lots of spooks.
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1 Reply'Comp' isn't competitive, it's shit on or get shit on. Played around 10 -15 games last night, at most two games were [i]competitive[/i].
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11 RepliesI get paired up with throwers almost every game. I confronted a player that was afk at the start of every round for at least 15 seconds. He proceeded to grab heavy and jump off the map. He would suicide into the enemy team and just dance in place. His response? "I gave my controller to my 6 year old brother" because I just want my 25 matches done. As long as players like that exist, solo queue comp will always be -blam!-ed up.
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I think the problem is, that ultimately the miserable PVP has driven off all of the players. So it's hard to make matches, and many of them are extremely strong players because they're the only ones who can have fun in the crucible right now.
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1 ReplySolo queuing was actually pretty easy this time.
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26 Replies"its rigged" yoooo lmao this dude right here! 1) your performance across multiple games doesnt affect the next lobby youll be in, only if you win or lose. for instance if you keep winning youll get more glory and face other inviduals with similar glory. if you continue to lose youll face more individuals that have also lost and have similar glory. next time you finished a game. look em all up on destiny tracker. not kds just glory. if your team has 1200,1300,1100,1700 then your opposing team should have ppl with a an average glory score as your team. so even if your matched with a team you gotta "carry" its actually balanced. if your facing a 2 stack and 1 has 3000 glory, and bis partner has 600 glory. your supposed to get a rando wjth 3000 glory or close to it. 2) ive played a lot of comp this season, i have yet to see lag and ive reached 2400 glory and have dropped back down to 2000 due to finishing quest steps (35 precision hc kills left to go) ive played as host in south florida, had a buddy host in georgia, another buddy in canada, someone else hosted on greece and another hosted in britain. no lag. thats your own connection to blame 3) teams do have a high chance of gettingg solo players cuz thats what they want to fave. but solo players can choose wether or not they face 4 stacks. yes its true!! how? you que up in comp. you see 1/8 you wait...you wait... and as soon you see 5/8 (4 stack incoming) you press back and do it again. amazing, i know. the shitty teammates you have? your at 1300 glory dude. you just got outta the pits. dont expect good teammates until you hit 1900. 5) no. no lol no. i was tryna get precision hc kills i wanted to play against lesser comp to make it easy, me and a buddy picked up someone with 500 glory. my teammate at 2000 glory was leader we were facing 1100 glory for almost 3 matches in a row then hit an occasional 2100 with two lower glory levels teammates . 6) no streaks for solos? i went on a 6-8 streak solo when i hit 2200, got me a little over 2400 but have you reach 5500 yet? i havent. but im not bold enough to state such a claim even tho i havent played at every level of glory this system has to offer . again ive played plenty of times solo when i was doing my quest steps after hitting fabled (i wanted to hit fabled first then worry about the quest steps) i stopped careing about winning and as a solo player tanking and focusing on certain kills i kept getting caried over and over and over. i think your salty my dude.
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Matchmaking in quickplay: ”Oh you were in the top 3 on a winning team that won with a large marginal, now proceed to carry this team of 5 that lack one player and is 50 points behind with 3 min left on the clock” Like Im able to do that. No. Ha ha! As soon as you win one game, the next one will be impossible.
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1 ReplyThere’s always that one autist on your team who apparently just had his thumbs removed because all he does is feed and ends with a sub 1 k/d and zero caps [spoiler]if you hadn’t noticed I’ve been banging my head against the comp wall for a solid hour [/spoiler]
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Destiny pvp started doing this about 5 months after D1 came out. Originally the teams would just carry on playing until 1 half quit or lost a player, then it would just fill the blank and carry on the lobby. Sometimes you’d get all good players on one team and consistently smash your way to long streaks, sometimes it was all pretty even, sometimes you was on the end of the smashing. However good players would do well no matter what team you got put on. Then they started with all the network manipulation behind the scenes and PvP went to pot. Shots would register one match and not the next (same teams and lobbies at this point) so you could tell consistently what was going on as players would one match stomp a player then the next match get stomped by same said player. Obviously bungie got called out on it and denied as usual. So instead of removing the weird mechanic they just broke the teams up every match so you couldn’t prove the network manipulation. Now everyone thinks it’s the norm when it really shouldn’t be. If your good your good and if your bad your bad, the network shouldn’t hobble/carry you whatsoever.
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/249121433/0/0
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Got the 5-win streak triumph a solo player. Even went up against stacked teams in a couple of the matches.
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Season 3 was => hell
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2 RepliesI remember that Bungo said when you match against a full fireteam while solo queue they would try to give you better teammates then the enemy team to equal out the match. It's not long ago I matched against a four stack with 3 players on 5500 glory and one on 2800 while I was the highest on my team around 1400. One of my random blueberries had 268 glory and a 0.19 K/D. :):)
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4 RepliesI just want one game that’s not -blam!-ing countdown! Get 200 solar kills... yeah sure on the slowest paced, most campy game mode every game. -blam!- off
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11 RepliesComp is fine.
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2 RepliesI have 1.7 kd , i was solo and got matched against a 3 man fireteams of people from the same country i am from . I got placed in a team with a guy who had 2 quickplay wins , a guy with a 0.8 EFFICIENCY and a level 10 guy . I left the match. The other time i was with my friend and we were stomping the other team , one dickhead wasn't performing well and he left the game( because your shitty kd is more important than getting banned and winning) our opponents reached us and we lost by a small gap , and then i lost some ranking points for losing... Nice bungie . Very nice.
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I agree on some parts. It was certainly laggy some matches. But I’ve gotten several streaks of 7~8 wins while playing solo. I consider myself skilled, but not great.
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connection is terrible for some reason in competitive
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Yea competitive definitely has not improved... I guess just adding the radar back was supposed to make a difference but as long as you’re able to go in as a solo player and not only get paired with scrubs but also consistently face teams it’ll be a long climb up with the odds wayyyyy against you
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Solo players, unite!
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2 RepliesAll these control maps with B flag and HEAVY on top of each other. Awful design Bungie.
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5 RepliesCompetitive is totally broken for soloes. Anywho im trying my best. Care to team up? My K/D is around 1.7. Peace.
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Edited by CatMan: 10/11/2018 7:09:15 PMI was going to buy that Luna on the bungie store when I hit fabled (last step I'm on), then I started to think.... Why the -blam!- would I work so hard in the video game, treating it like it's a job, to buy some shit the same price as a rdr2 or bfv (yes I'm a battlefield fan sue me)? This week I slowed all the way down on playing comp when I had that thought. I wasn't doing it for the fake digital gun I was doing it for the overpriced toy gun aka playing for the wrong reasons. Had two other family members helping me and they are just as bad at comp(or matchmaking sucks ass)...how sad is that.
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Edited by Optic: 10/11/2018 6:48:28 PMIt's pretty true though. I'm at 600 glory and I got matched with a full team that each had a glory rank of 5000. It was right after I won my last match to.
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2 RepliesEnough with these shitty conspiracy theories. You all sound like a bunch of losers. Matches aren’t rigged, it’s just who the matchmaking pairs you with. You will lose some and you will win some. So stop crying about it.
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Edited by Jy-Seven: 10/11/2018 3:38:20 PM1st game in comp all my teammates just left 4v1 -blam!- me 😠
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Seeing bungie wants to answer crys about fusion rifles, and congratulate teamsters for getting the Luna's howl but will not respond to these posts, im debating on reporting stacked teams as exploiting the game. Just to get their attention
