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Edited by ThelProfessorl:
12/24/2017 1:02:46 AM
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Lol delusional. Complete removal of Eververse would mean complete removal of events. Say good-bye to SRL, Dawning, and others. You don't have to buy the stuff you can let other people buy it and that funds events.
Yes they should tweak it and bring stuff out of Eververse into activites, but complete removal would be idiotic.
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There is no SRL in D2. Goodbye dawning? Sure, an event that offers 1 non winter related gamemode, and snowballs on the map. That is the dawning update for D1 considering everything else is locked behind a paywall. I'm fine not getting those pointless events if it means more time for them to make content that is accessible to everyone, and not only making a handful of armour because the majority of the designs are going into the eververse loot pool.
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Edited by ThelProfessorl: 12/24/2017 2:54:56 PMThere is no SRL in D2? Tell me more nostradamus. It's only been 5 months in lol. You realize there's a summer event that's likely to have it for season 4. It's a free event that's funded by other people. [b]Why do you care?[/b] The reason they make these events, ships, sparrows, and ghosts is because people buy stuff from Eververse. They're not going to take away Eververse and "put their time into actual content" and get zero money for that lmao. Bungie is a business.
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Edited by BEH0LDiTzSAM: 12/26/2017 5:26:41 AM"Only been 5 months" for event already established and running in D1. They had 5 months to make at least 1 map, and edit one existing set of SRL gear to have for the dawning and they didn't even do that. Too busy making 100s of items for Eververse seen added in the dawning and CoO. "Why do I care" Because it's not a free event as the items are locked behind a paywall, with only 3 possible chances of being given the item during the event. Sure I could maybe buy 1 set of gear for 1 character using up ALL of my bright dust saved up since the release of the game. And then have nothing left to spend whenever anything new is added. The alternative is they could of been made FREE. All they had to do is at least make the armour obtainable through grinding for those who didn't want to spend money. Even Call of Duty did their event better, where you could either spend money to get the new items instantly, or grind for them and earn them for free through PLAYING the game. As far as I'm concerned the only thing I received from other people 'funding' this event are the snowball piles left around in game. As that's the only thing they actually added as part of the event besides a useless sword recolour
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It’s not a free event though, 99% of the dawning stuff is in eververse...
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Edited by ThelProfessorl: 12/24/2017 5:54:20 PMSo you're ignoring Dawning engrams and gifts? Ok. It also brings Mayhem back. Did you pay for Mayhem and milestones?
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Lol, milestones? Who cares about milestones. Yeah, those free engrams that give you shit all. If you want anything cool you better pull that wallet out.
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Edited by ThelProfessorl: 12/24/2017 6:18:52 PMThose free engrams give you Dawning "shit" lmao. Are you oblivious? Everything can be obtained free. [b]You don't have to buy cosmetics.[/b] It's not a necessity, not hard to understand lol. You can also break down stuff for bright engrams to buy that "cool stuff". Or you can have no events, no mayhem, no extra gear. They won't make the items if no one pays for them. Use some logic if you have any.
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Edited by ThaPerna: 12/24/2017 8:52:45 PMYou’re the oblivious one if you think eververse funds events. They just want your money, Bungie isn’t broke, they have hundreds of millions of dollars and Activision has billions. Mayhem? You think we wouldn’t get an old crucible game mode because people are buying silver? Lol. Those engrams are shit, again, if you want anything you have spend money because it’s RNG. The chances of you getting something good is really low. Oh and by the way, it’ll take around 18,000 dust to get everything and that’s just an estimate. Good luck with that “you can get it without spending money!”
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Edited by Ashen Phoenix: 12/24/2017 7:26:27 PMAlso they are already getting their funds through seasonal crappy DLC's, cmon CoO is an excuse of a DLC for the price tag attached to it, this is a AAA developer being greedy AF. Microtransactions are nothing but a greedy money grab, they're already making piles of money without it. Just so you know, eververse wasn't always there in D1 it gained prominence around the time of the Taken King DLC. We still had seasonal events before that though and tbh those events had much more to offer than this years dawning. And the best part was you had to do a bunch of quests to actually earn the stuff which was fun to go through. For a long period of time eververse in Destiny 1 only sold emotes the legendary dance ones being the most popular. They just tested how gullible gamers can be about wasting their money and then slowly but surely they kept adding more stuff behind a pay wall and here we are today. Luke Freaking Smith even went on air and insulted the intelligence of us gamers saying, that we are stupid and will throw our money at our screen if bungie shows us something shiny, he even said it's like bargaining, if we want more for less, he said perhaps us gamers shouldn't show so much appreciation with our wallets but here you are and others like you making a case and arguement for them, GG! Perhaps think again when you say they need to be funded for creating these sorts of events and identify a greedy AF money grab for what it is ;)
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Edited by ThelProfessorl: 12/24/2017 7:42:12 PMYou're obviously clueless, D1 had events before taken king? Iron Banner lol? When did D1 vanilla have Dawning, SRL, Festival of the Lost, and Crimson days? Oh that's right, when Eververse was introduced ALL of the these came to light. [b]Bungie came out directly and said Eververse directly funds these events and wait for it.....content.[/b] Don't make shit up and give me a history. I know you don't run the finances of Bungie and understand how to program so don't pretend you know what's going on at Bungie or Activision. Eververse should be tweaked, but not removed.
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Queen's Wrath was the first ever event in D1 and yes it was in year 1 before the rest ;) Perhaps read what i wrote again, even though there was eververse in Destiny during the festival of the lost, the only things that you had to buy were the dances, the most popular one being the Zombie Dance, i remember that really well. The rest of the masks and other cosmetics you could earn through quests, hardly anything was locked behind the pay wall of eververse. And ofcourse a greedy publisher would come out and say, "oh we need money to keep financing this shit," it's our job to call them out on their BS. Pre-orders and microtransactions are destroying gaming. Also how come you didn't comment on any of Luke Smith's remarks? ;) And nah i don't need to pretend nor is finance rocket science to understand. Developers being hard pressed to cover developing costs is a blatant lie, game development costs have been drastically going down since the last 10 years, and in 2017 they're actually very low compared to what they used to be (there has to be a cost vs profit ratio that has to be taken into account here). Perhaps you should also go look at their fiscal reports per year and their stock prices on google for yourself ;) I'll say this tho, i have nothing against Bungie, poor chaps are having their hands being forced by Activision.
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Edited by ThelProfessorl: 12/24/2017 8:13:26 PMAnd what happened to Queen's Wrath? Lmao. Development costs of games have gone down in the past 10 years? Lol. We're done talking here. [b]Average[/b] development cost has gone down. Lol, that average includes MANY small indie game companies. Then the giant companies (Uh Bungie/Activision) which have had their development costs skyrocket. You just don't believe them.
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Edited by Ashen Phoenix: 12/24/2017 8:32:07 PMWhy would you expect me to believe a greedy company like activision and take them up on their word? I believe in numbers, numbers don't lie, just go take a look at their fiscal reports and stock prices like i said and you'll see for yourself... And perhaps go read an article or documentary about game development for big companies, it helps their case to act victims of huge developments costs, why wouldn't they say that? They say our development costs skyrocketed due to ambitious projects, well of course they did but that's only half the story presented in a light favorable to them. The other half is with huge costs come huge profits as well, these games sell waaay more in numbers than idie games do and they're also priced more expensively and on top of that there are DLC's. They're just stating an abvious fact our cost went up that's really it, that cost didn't come without it's due revenue.
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I guess you never played Destiny 1, mayhem isn't an event it's a game mode and it was there in Destiny 1 and it should have been in Destiny 2 from the get go. Just like there was rumble, ignite the rift etc ;) And no not everything can be obtained for free, you only earn 3 dawning engrams for free which hardly give anything at all so, get your facts right before being delusional and calling others oblivious. Not to mention this game is a looter, being a looter means you play and earn loot, it's so -blam!- that a game you PAID $60 to PLAY actually encourages you to not play it and instead pay to earn loot. People like you are the reason that gaming sucks so much, when you feed these BS companies with microtransaction money, you're encouraging them to get lazier and making them gain more confidence to shit over us gamers and get away with it.
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Edited by ThelProfessorl: 12/24/2017 7:51:08 PMYou're ignoring all my points and saying the dumbest things. "Mayhem isn't an event" no shit it's part of the event. Mayhem was removed and became a rare occurence towards end of D1 so try again. Why don't you mention bright dust that can buy everything? I get atleast 6 bright engrams a week. "Pay to earn loot" paying for [b]cosmetics[/b] that be acheived through gaming lol. I'm going to repeat this a million times. It should be changed, but not removed. Sensitive people like you who think game COMPANIES are going to please you 100% are delusional. It's 2017. It is a cash grab, but you don't have to pay for it.
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It didn't become as rare of an occurrence as you're trying to make it seem, modes were simply rotated weekly between ignite the rift, inferno etc. And while we're on the subject, why aren't any of those modes in the game? Why make an areguement for them? And i'm simply correcting you on your comments, calling mayhem am event and then you consider yourself to be making valid points which need to be addressed lol. As far as bright dust goes, no you can't buy everything lol. For one, you only get 100 bright dust for dismantling a legendary ship or sparrow etc, that means you need to dismatle atleast 8 of those to get 800 dust, that's 8 engrams that you have to be lucky with to get a ship, ghost sparrow etc, most of the time it can just be shaders. And by the time you can grind enough to be able to buy something, you can only buy from the limited stuff that's showing up in Tess's menu. Not to mention exotic sparrows etc require 2500 dust on the rare occassion that they're being sold. There goes your useless point. Looks and cosmetic stuff are a big part of MMO's so please stop being a blind fanboy and making a point for them, the idea that shaders are now consumable and locked behing eververse paywall is -blam!-. And perhaps companies might not listen to me and others like me but legislators and government officials are starting to take notice of our voices i mean it's 2017 after all and after the Star Wars Battlefront 2 fiasco finally some laws are gonna come into place to regulate these greedy bastards ;) The backlash against Bungie was strong this time, they had to cancel their third stream of CoO, they're finally making comments about discussing the future of eververse, make them listen and they will listen or else they will keep losing their players.
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Edited by ThelProfessorl: 12/24/2017 8:40:44 PMWhere did I say Mayhem is an event? You're not correcting anything your brain is making stuff up. [b]This is the quote "no events, no mayhem, no extra gear[/b]..." I hope you know a comma means something new. Why don't you scroll up and read the comment before saying dumb shit? You can look at the comment date aswell. You're not correcting me on anything when you can't even read correctly. It's impossible to get just shaders from an engram. Again, you're just making shit up. Emote, ghost, ship, and sparrow are guaranteed with shaders from a bright engram. No point in arguing with someone making false statements.
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Nice try but try again coz here's your other quote: [quote]Ok. It also brings Mayhem back. Did you pay for Mayhem and milestones?[/quote] And here's the full quote you referenced: [quote]Or you can have no events, no mayhem, no extra gear[/quote] You're clearly linking Mayhem as supposed to come as a rare occurrence with seasonal events (which wasn't the case in D1) a novelty which has to be paid for. That's pretty much calling it a novelty event. This isn't the case, try as you may, being the blind fanboy you are. No point arguing with me? Ofcourse not, your points aren't valid, they'll just land on their ass ;)
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Edited by ThelProfessorl: 12/24/2017 9:06:33 PMYou're an idiot plain and simple. Mayhem comes with the Dawning. Have you seen the milestone for it or Bungie's post? It's that simple. This is not D1 moron with rotating playlists. Nowhere did I say Mayhem is an event like your saying. Your brain is connecting nothing lmao. It's hard for you to say your wrong I can see that. When Mayhem goes away with Dawning that'll further prove my point.
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Edited by Ashen Phoenix: 12/24/2017 9:12:48 PMAww gonna throw a tantrum now and call names coz your wee little brain is hurt now? I can see you're incapable of responding to reasonable arguments so you go into a fit of rage, delightful xD. Here, since you can't read between the lines i'll break it down further for you: You're being a dumb brain dead fanboy, placing Mayhem as a seasonal occurrence with events, why? Because your precious Bungie said so, Mayhem obviously has to be paid for like you said right? A FREAKING SIMPLE CRUCIBLE MODE, MAYHEM THAT IS, NEEDS TO BE PAID FOR INDIRECTLY THROUGH SEASONAL EVENTS LIKE DAWNING NOW COZ IT CLEARLY NEEDS TO BE FUNDED FOR! G FREAKING G MAN!!! [quote]Ok. It also brings Mayhem back. Did you pay for Mayhem and milestones?[/quote]
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Edited by ThelProfessorl: 12/24/2017 9:41:10 PMYet the hypocrite is throwing the tantrum lmao. You just changed the topic you -blam!-ing idiot hahahahahaha. That's a sign someone is wrong. Now you're talking about Mayhem being paid for BY OTHER PEOPLE (free to me idiot) and ranting about Bungies decision that a crucible mode is part of an event due to its lack of playerbase in D1. [b]My argument was Mayhem comes with Dawning, which is a fact, and you said that's not the case (Scroll up to your comment moron) this isn't D1. It also doesn't just fund Mayhem moron. From what you just said that is the case[/b]. [b][u]GG[/u][/b].
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lol i just took a moment to express my delight at you losing it and toyed with you, it worked :D. I'm not having to be vain and desperate to write "haha's." Besides i went right back to the topic at hand after that ;) Thanks captain obvious, you can word it however you like and add whatever you want to avoid making yourself look bad now, the bottom line still is, your standards are so low that you're reta rded enough to accept Mayhem as something that needs to be funded for to stay active, let that sink in. As if being funded by other people somehow makes it better lols. You're on a whole different level of retardedness and low standards.
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Edited by ThelProfessorl: 12/24/2017 9:46:37 PMYeah you're an idiot lol that's confirmed. Only someone who knows they proved themselves as an idiot will say "they were playing around" rofl. Go back on your 330+ characters and keep playing....or complaining either one. Actually keep switching the topic.
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Contradict yourself much? My whole point is nothing needs to be funded for and now you're trying to make it seem like i'm saying Mayhem is the only thing being funded? Nice try, it doesn't even need to be said out loud what's being funded or not, but you're getting desperate i see. AND no, you weren't simply stating a fact you were defending Bungie's decision, a stupid decision, i'm calling you on your fanboyism and their BS by saying that shouldn't be how it is because such a simple thing doesn't need funding ;) Seems like you're running out of making reasonable arguments so you just want me gone now, don't pop some vessels kiddo and take your own advice and stop making yourself look bad.
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Keep replying I'm laughing.
