TL:DR at bottom
[b][u]PAST[/u][/b]
"Wahhh Suros is op!"- Auto rifle - nerfed into uselessness until the buff
"Wahhh auto rifles op!" - Blanket auto Nerf into uselessness
"Wahhh Vex is op!"- Fusion rifle - nerfed into uselessness, re-buffed, still useless
"Wahhh Pocket Infinity is OP!"- Fusion rifle - nerfed into oblivion
"Wahhh fusion rifles are op!"- Blanket fusion nerf
"Wahhh blink op!"- Nerfed blink
"Wahhh shot package is op!" - Removed a perk from the game
"Wahhh high impact pulses op!" - All high impact Messenger type pulses nerfed
"Wahhh final round op!"- Removed this perk from all new snipers
"Wahhh hand cannons op!"- Added bloom, ghost bullets, and gimped range across the board
"Wahhh Red Death is op!" - Pulse rifle
"Wahhh shotguns op!"- Blanket shotgun nerf, happened three times until we got to the current shotguns
"Wahhh sunbreakers op!" - Gimped sunbreaker until the buff/fix
"Wahhh sunsingers op!"- Gimped sunsingers
"Wahhh ice breaker encourages camping raid/strike bosses!"- Increased the time it takes for ammo to regen
"Wahhh shadestep/twilight is op!" Added 3 second cool down and lowered to one dodge instead of two
"Wahhh gjallahorn kills bosses too fast!"- Nerfed wolfpack rounds damage
"Wahhh nobody will let me raid with them because I don't have gjallahorn!"- Every player can now get the gjallahorn out of a quest
"Wahhh re-rolling is unbalanced! It reduces weapon variety!"- No weapon can now be re-rolled at the gunsmith anymore
"Wahhh armor piercing rounds op!" Removed ability to shoot through walls
"Wahhh specials are used as primaries!"- Reduced special and heavy ammo across the board
"Wahhh snipers have too much ammo!"- Reduced total sniper ammo capacity across the board
"Wahhh arc bolt/fire bolt is too good!"- Nerfed hitting range and damage
"Wahhh the Ram gives too much armor!"- Nerfed exotic armor perk
"Wahhh the last word kills too fast!" - Multiple nerfs to range and perk
"Wahhh thorn is useless, buff it!"- Buff made it two shot kill with the DOT
"Wahhh thorn is too op now, nerf it!"- 7 months later the inevitable nerf happened, reducing DOT damage and range
"Wahhh hawkmoon has too much range!"- Nerfed range
"Wahhh 3oC is op!"- Lowered drop chance and raised cool down on consecutive uses
"Wahhh snipers are op!"- Increased flinch and reduced the impact of medium impact snipers (like longbow)
"Wahhh bladedancers are op!"- Nerfed subclass three times
"Wahhh tripmine shouldn't stick!"- Removed stick on players
"Wahhh revives in trials are too short!"- Increased revive times across the board
"Wahhh universal remote kills me too far away!"- Nerfed damage and range, buffed ROF slightly
"Wahhh throwing knife and smoke is op!"- Nerfed damage and activation time respectively
"Wahhh mida is op!"- Removed high caliber rounds from its hidden perk
"Wahhh shoulder charge is op!"- Nerfed shoulder charge
[b][u]PRESENT[/u][/b]
"Wahhh primaries are too weak! Buff them!"
"Wahhh shotguns are too op, nerf them!"
"Wahhh stormcaller melee/class is op! Nerf it!"
"Wahhh juggernaut is too op, nerf it!"
"Wahhh there isn't enough class variety! Buff (insert class here)!"
"Wahhh skip/lightning/axiom bolt/sticky grenades are too op! Nerf it/them!"
"Wahhh there isn't enough gun variety! Buff (insert weapon type)!"
"Wahhh Destiny is boring because everything is too weak! Fix it bungo!"
TL:DR, think about why primaries and some abilities are good/suck before you complain for buffs/nerfs.
You people get every single weapon type nerfed, then complain that they're now too weak and "deserve" a buff. This is why PvP is ruined and no wonder bungie struggles to balance this shit. These nerfs also affect PvE too.
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"Wahhhhhhh, its all true" I'm laughing my ass off right now
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It's not enough, everything that kills me should be nerfed.
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this community has got ZERO nerfed. Bungie changes the meta to keep crucible fresh and get the most longevity out its content and assets. They let you believe you have a voice and if you do, you're a fool.
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You forgot... Waaaah MIDA is OP...removes high caliber rounds as an intrinsic perk. Only to have Bungie make sniper flinch increased. Making that nerf completely unnecessary imo.
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Ahh good ole destiny
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So true. Keep it going
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This^. This made me laugh.
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The trials map
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1 ReplyPretty sure there was a Nothing Manacle nerf back during/after HoW/pre-TTK as well. I remember being pissed because I loved those things. Maybe it was just leaving them in year 1, too long ago lol - they're ok now, but not as good as they were originally. Other than that, pretty much sums it up. A whole lot of WAHHHHHHHH.... WAHHHH Elemental Primaries reduce weapon choices WAHHHH Black Hammer shouldn't be a legendary & shouldn't have infinite ammo WAHHHH Don't let Ice Breaker or Pocket Infinity return... ever... [spoiler]Great post. You, Sir, are good people.[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyYou skipped the 9 shotgun nerfs...
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1 ReplyThe stats. The stats got them nerfed. People in the masses complaining may have have turned bungies eyes onto them but alas it was the stats. Its also why handcannons got a nerf in ttk. Same with snipers. When 3 weapon types are the main ones used, that's an issue. It shouldn't be like that. They should issue more actual buffs than nerfs but whatever. We adapt and move on.
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1 ReplyYour forget that it's not the community that implements the nerfs, it's Bungie. Bungie chooses to make changes based on the whines and cries of streamers and scrubs so we are left with the mess we have before us now. Bungie's interpretation of the stats are lackluster at best.
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You can still reroll the old weapons at the gunsmith.
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Thorns damage was never buffed in year 1. It simply had improvements to mag size and reload.
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Hell this is a long list im a year 1 day 1 Player but i didnt realise that the nerfing Kids getting this shitload of nerfs dude its not even fun anymore to read all this glory guns got absolutly destroyed and are all complete shit now....
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1 ReplyChanges were necessary. Holding certain weapons or classes completely outshined the rest. The crucible would be a mess if changes weren't made. All that remains now are some minor tweaks (i.e. restoring handling on snipers, buffing certain weapons, etc)
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1 ReplyPoor map design and anyone can use a shotgun effectively. I've joined the meta (finally). Matador 64 primary. Clever dragon.
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1 ReplyHuh, kindly point me to where i asked for any of those nerfs. i can't seem to find it. the main problem with destiny's PVP that everyone ignores is the shitty map design.
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A few of those were legitimate complaints. I agree most were fine as is.
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You should have put shotpackage nerf first, and further down the list put it as 'still op' and then removed.
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So fuc&ing true!
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the only problem with this post is, most of the nerfs were not done because of the player base crying nerf, but because the weapon in Bungie's eyes was being used too much. To me that is ridiculous, If all the weapons was balanced on time to kill, we would see more weapon diversity. People would choose the weapons that suits the play style more. Also people that think that a certain weapon needs a nerf are entitled to their opinion. As much as I am unhappy with so many nerfs, there have been cases were nerfs were needed. Sure I have seen alot of nerfs that weren't needed in my eyes, and have caused me alot of frustration. That doesn't mean that those who disagreed with me is a crybaby.
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Lol "gimped"
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Whole lot of crying coming from your mouth.
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1 ReplyEdited by Criiies: 11/11/2016 2:57:00 PMYoure acting like they were for no reason, almost all of them were much needed for the pvp scene and were met with praise. If you dont like weapon and class adjustments dont play loot based games.Also, the answer to overpowered weapons is not to buff all other weapons, because then you have risk so much of the core balance of every other weapon type.
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8 RepliesYou blame the community for nerfs, but do you give credit to the community for buffs and fixes? No... so you see it's a balance. Being one sided makes you look stupid. Also, did you ever consider why weapons get nerfed? It's not the whiners, it's actually the over use and abuse of players who use them.... that is, unless you loved having 12 Thorns in every game. So, please... get real.