Aye it's Brother Vance, Well I presume you already know my long winded thoughts on DoT...lol. Had an argument with an idiot earlier (Not OP) I talk about how DoT shouldn't exist in PvP and use firebolts as an example. Said idiot get offended, tries to defend firebolts and compare them to the incendiary nade. [spoiler][quote]Not only is your argument invalid but it is irrelevant. Also what exactly do warlocks lose from using 2 perks for their firebolts? Trying to compare incendiary to firebolts lmao. I probably don't even need to check your profile to guess you main a warlock who probably whores flame shield and firebolts with ToF and VF. You don't know what you're talking about, DoT is powerful because of how long it keeps you out the game and how vulnerable it leaves you. To anyone else who reads this post do not be offended, I am not attacking warlocks, firebolts was just an example. Anyways back to the matter at hand thorn alone with it's stats and lingering damage are fine. It's the fact that health is reducing overtime which keeps you out the fight and makes you weaker as an added to effect. And then when you stop taking damage only then will the shield recovery [b]countdown[/b] begin. Tell me how would thorn be if the ticks of damage from DoT didn't reset the health recovery timer? It would be fine. Of course the damage is a whole new matter. Then you have to take into account all the other benefits which is why thorn is overpowered. DoT gives away exact enemy position, and is a constant reoccurrance due to the fact that it is a primary. Why do you think firebolts are such a big complaint? Every mindless fool wants to say it's the damage that makes it overpowered, when really it's total recovery time you need which makes firebolts very viable. And again there will be other contributing factors always which makes something even worse than it is. Firebolt alone is a decent grenade. Good range. Not hard to hit someone. You have all those things to account for as well as the burn. Incendiary grenades require much more accuracy and timing to place well, due to the type of grenade it is and the detonation style it has along with the blast radius. Stick firebolts ToF with VF on an incendiary. It won't be as powerful as a firebolt. Because they are much more effective and easier to use, even if you are out the fight for a while. Every factor counts. [/quote][/spoiler]