I'll have to see. Elder scrolls online cones out on console around the same time HoW does, so it better be good if i'm to stay

Doubt it. Were talking like they require sales from HoW or Comet to recoup a loss. They practically tripled the production cost of Destiny. They're laughing to the bank at this point. PR is the name of the game now. As long as they make it look like they've made an effort to satisfy the core player base, marketing will take care of the rest. What we have to realize is, there are people who are still going to buy the game, the whole game, from now until Comet. Like it. Play it for three months and buy Comet. Likewise, think about it... There's been a solid user base for three months after TDB dropped. If HoW does come out end of April, early May, last three months, that 1 month of down time until Comet. Bungie has seriously planned this out. I'm not praising them, but the time the DLCs are dropping is well played. There is a core player base, friends lists, community posts, about people leaving have little substance. No one has numbers to back it up. Gameinformer, GameSpot, all reported the user base grew from 16 million in Februray to 17 million in March. I'm not confirming this, just what was reported. Is that 17 million playing? Probably not. But there was a rise in overall activations. HoW do or die? Only in the PR sense. The people who played CE and still run VoG will run the new Raid for 3 months and players like me who enjoy PvP and Nightfalls will play through all the way to Comet. Personally... The only thing that will kill destiny is Bungie not producing content. Which isn't likely anytime soon, the stuff coming HoW, Comet, and the following DLCs are most likely low cost addons with most of the framework packaged with the Launch game and with the massive (massive in the destiny sense) Comet expansion. Edit: not a fanboy, just looking at it logically... This game was supposed to die months ago and with every subsequent big title release. It hasn't. Why? Well, maybe just maybe there are more people playing this game that don't actually care about all the fuss... And just play.

No. Stfu.

For a lot of the older players from day 1 it is bungie's last chance to impress us. A lot of the Day 1's (including myself) are either on break or have quit entirely. I don't speak for them, but a lot of the ones I talk to feel like this. If HoW isn't something special, then bungie will lose a good chunk of its base. Those of us who have been on the game since the beginning are the ones who have been advertising and drawing players in with our videos on YouTube, posts on forums and through spoken word. We were the ones who helped the kinderguardians when they wanted to run VoG hard at 27 or get carried through CE. Bungie needs to remember us before it decides to release another half assed product like Dark Below. Without us, the dedicated players, this game would of died 3 months after release like some of us thought. If HoW is bad (not marginally better than DLC 1) your base will all but disappear. The game may survive, who knows, however it will take bungie a long time to build that base back up. HoW will decide for a lot of older player (some are just staying b/c they bought the seasons pass) if they are going to stay. If the older players quit forever then the game will fall.

I think comet will be most players break point...we all know HoW is only bringing a small amount of content...but the rumours on comet is the BIG ONE.

Since most destiny fans are mindless zombies who seem to think destiny's the only game out there.... I'd say destiny will live on As for bungie... Well, they've been dead since they joined activision

That would be comet more likely. Many of us already bought HoW so we'll more than likely stick around for it at least mostly. Comet on the other hand they have to convince us to buy. Sure, HoW will influence that to a degree, but Comet hints at a much bigger update, people may feel that's worth at least looking at before walking away. I'm curious about the leaked image's mention of a new patrol (really disappointed it's only 1, but it'd be better than playing more story missions backwards)

No. Destiny 2/post Comet DLC is what will kill or keep the franchise. If they keep up the half hearted updates, ignore reasonable and popular customers requests(more story, private PvP, optional matchmaking, more appearance options) players will simply stop coming back. I like this game, the play style is exciting and fun, the lore(what little there is of it) has captured my heart. It's a good game with problems, with its online, constant update game support lack of improvement is inexcusable. A good game with problems can become a great game with proper fixes and tweaking.

No, the little DLCs seem to be following a set model. Handful of missions and stuff, but no real changes or improvements to the game. The destiny we have right now isn't going to change very much until destiny 2. If anything, a lot of people will be waiting for reviews before buying D2 I think.