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Edited by jhermannITJ:
2/18/2024 1:42:13 AM
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Crazy idea... hear me out... would PvP be better IF....
Trials weapons... a small selection... no adepts dropped in either Iron Banner or Comp (when Trials is active)?
Like 3 non-adept weapons excluding the most current weapons?
No armor, no vanity items...
3/4 times per episode if IB. Natural end of match only... no engrams, no Trials rank track progress... and it wouldn't unlock focusing in the vendor.
1 off... natural drops in IB or Comp.
Would that be better for pop. Because PvP needs players. I know it sounds crazy... but why not?
Per my described limitations... why not? You can farm adept GM weapons playing the Coil...
I think this idea could work.
😇 👍💠
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I disagree. If you want Trials weapons, play Trials. If you want IB weapons, play IB. If you want Raid weapons, play the Raid.
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How about a different (arguably sensible, but very crazy considering the game position for many years) suggestion. Make dedicated loot available for use in different game modes; so everyone uses regular pvp gear in regular pvp, everyone uses dedicated comp gear (more gear required) for use in comp. And, everyone uses dedicated trials gear in trials. Imagine being able to unlock these items through rank rewards (or trials tickets) for use in other modes (adds to collection) so pve and gambit. You could even allow weapon focusing once unlocked. This could add incentive to playing these modes, and could also result in the higher tier modes having genuinely high tier rewards... so the people who can go flawless etc... can still be rewarded with the best gear (including cosmetic items). Exceptions: exotic gear can be used as normal and class/sub class can be used as normal. Perks can be set in advance based upon preset energy/stats... which will increase upon rank increase (maybe).
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The gate keepers won't like this suggestion.
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2 RepliesI don’t think regular trials weapons are desirable enough to bring in more players. If it were me, I would focus more on the improving PvP as an activity instead of trying to add more loot to bring players in. People should play it because it’s fun, not because they want a weapon.
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[quote]Trials weapons... a small selection... no adepts dropped in either Iron Banner or Comp (when Trials is active)? Like 3 non-adept weapons excluding the most current weapons? No armor, no vanity items... 3/4 times per episode if IB. Natural end of match only... no engrams, no Trials rank track progress... and it wouldn't unlock focusing in the vendor. 1 off... natural drops in IB or Comp. Would that be better for pop. Because PvP needs players. I know it sounds crazy... but why not? Per my described limitations... why not? You can farm adept GM weapons playing the Coil... I think this idea could work. 😇 👍💠[/quote] Personally, I don’t like this idea but purely because I feel each gamemode should have their own exclusive weapons/armour that makes it worthwhile to play these modes. Also, end of day, you can still get non adept versions of the weapons by playing Trials and not needed to go flawless. GM weapons in Coil, again I don’t like this - GM Adept Weapons belong in GM’s. If you want a GM Adept Weapon, then run a GM!! PvP does need players, you are absolutely right but fundamentally, it’s the infracture of PvP that is broken and while it is broken, even having non adept trial weapons isn’t going to repair PvP!!
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I think they need to open up the loot a lot, it would help with the health of the playlist and remove the elitism attached to the rewards. Hand out adepts for completing matches, hand out more engrams for wins or losses. Make it accessible to everyone imo
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1 ReplyI tried trials once again this weekend and tbh after dealing with only crouch shooting spammers ima just ignore that this game has pvp
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23 RepliesLol another bad post
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Bungo is better off shutting this game down and work on a sequel.
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3 RepliesEdited by xbroggiex: 2/19/2024 12:13:33 AM[quote]Crazy idea... hear me out... would PvP be better IF.... Trials weapons... a small selection... no adepts dropped in either Iron Banner or Comp (when Trials is active)?[/quote] No, because pvp's problem isn't a lack of rewards or incentive its a lack of enjoyment and commitment from Bungie. [quote]Per my described limitations... why not? You can farm adept GM weapons playing the Coil...[/quote] I have a feeling its a bug that coil drops ciphers as its considered a Nightfall in the game. But I think Bungie probably doesn't care enough to fix it because if someone is willing to spend multiple hours to get 1 adept NF drop when they could just run a couple GMs or even just go for the normal version it looks good on their metrics. If we were talking about your idea based on Coil then you'd need to do 50-60 Iron Banner/Comp matches to get 1 random drop of a Trials weapon which would be so pointless no-one would care.
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1 ReplyA better idea, make Adept Iron Banner loot and make all Iron Banner guns craftable, even those in collections.
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I don't really think it would make any difference tbh.
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2 RepliesSounds like you want handouts
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1 ReplyOnly if they are heavily nerfed Guns like Immortal shouldn't be so accessible
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3 RepliesEdited by Guardian, Archon Of Light: 2/18/2024 11:42:17 PMYou can't get nightfall weapons from the coil Only materials and Dreaming City/Season Wish weapons/armor And why not ask for raid weapons from Gambit ?
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4 RepliesDon’t you have to get the adept version from GM NF first?
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11 RepliesI think that would reduce trials further. I think it would be good if there were selected weapon drops at the end of trials games. But nowhere else.
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2 RepliesYour idea is counter productive to the playlist from which you want to pull rewards from. Trials rewards are going to have to come via participation in Trials. The only support you're going to find is from drop outs wanting something for nothing. Some may believe they smell blood in the water, which emboldens them in making unreasonable demands. A closer look though will show a comparatively sizeable PvP overhaul coming in two weeks.....in addition to some signs of life leading up to this. I posted a poll not too long ago seeking opinion on adding another rewards layer to Trials....geared toward early rounds participation and resembling the successful Comp rewards staging. Not surprisingly, though you'll find 1000s of complaint prone folks here.....the poll results were small but did show a 70% approval. Hypothetically, if Trials were to come to an en end, I like to see an round robin elimination tournament with ultimate rewards and bragging rights on the libe for those that earn it. Then the ability to earn anything Trials related ceases to exist. Far better this way than having Trials bones scavenged by the hoarde..
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2 RepliesWell for one Trials isn’t active when it’s Iron Banner week, so there goes that. Unless they changed it. And two, trials gear is for trials, not Comp. You don’t see me doing Crotas end for Vault of glass weapons. Trials just really needs better rewards, more incentive, better stomp on cheaters, better matchmaking!
