False. Top Tree Dawn still dominates.

Nah it’s definitely us Warlocks!

You literally can't ruin something that was never that good. All of D2's life time it's been -blam!-.

Hunters don’t ruin crucible, Lobby balancing ruins Crucible.

Bungie inability to understand what the community as a whole wants is ruining PVP. When we say we are tired of HCs, Shotguns and Stompees, it is like they are deaf. When we say can you do something about the team shooting with ARs, nerf the ARs immediately and buff the ranges of HCs. This is why Bungie needs to understand what each archetype and class are truthfully suppose to be. It is like the META is “The Way” but diversity is cancer to them.

hunters ? how? the fact they can easy win shotguns fi ghts? nothing more

Coming from a person who plays all classes, all are quite fine where they are, I mean I quite enjoyed using a warlock with a sniper and smg in crucible A Titan with a pulse rifle and shotgun in crucible And hunter, sidearm and pulse rifle And with each one I quite enjoyed how it felt and enjoyed playing the game and I don’t know how some people just say “oh this is ruining the game” and I’m just like, be optimistic and learn, if someone is using something find something to counter it here is what I think Titans arc super:they will either for the other two subclasses would try get as close as possible, make the distance too long and shoot, middle tree, find tight corridors and doors and run though them Titans solar super: middle and top, once again smaller areas so they either hit or miss but running is always optional, middle tree, best is run and make tight turns Titan void super: best option stay away from tight enclosed areas since the shield tracks, bubble: use a super from long range, so their weapons of light came be as affective since they are farther away and they have to run to kill you or run away middle tree, same as shield, keep away from tight areas were the shield will track and run, their main goal is to get close and hit so run if their shield is up Warlock void super: they will use their super up close and personal depending on the type, if it’s the chaos one try run into a building as fast as possible or door, if it’s the devour if you see them cast it, take a 50/50 to kill it since it’s up close, nova warp, best is try do as much damage as you can, maybe a slug shotgun with vorpal weapon Warlock solar super: both sword are deadly, bottom for tracking and top for mobility, but the middle tree is quite easy now since the gjallarhorn kills them in the well Warlock arc super: land fall will destroy most class supers so if you see a warlock in the air best option is run or try headshot it before it pops, the teleporting one is a bit more tricky but as the void warlock, find its movements and with vorpal weapon you could headshot and melee, chaos reach is good against all close up but a sniper can take it down, along with a fusion or a scout Void hunter super: if it’s the path of the trapper, stay away from corner and them if your in your super, try bait them to use it and then run away, you may think you did bad but you just saved your teams super, way of the pathfinder if your entire team has super make sure to avoid it, since it will try hit all of you, wrath is just another arc warlock, bait it’s movements and vorpal weapon of Solar hunter super: try make them waste their shots basically, and for blade same as nova hide in areas and wait Hunter arc super: for way of the wind and warrior, both are kinda similar, but way of the way is my favourites even to use, so I will tell you how to counter it, best thing is, always have distance, with the speed buff it has it will move quicker in both non super and super, but it’s also harder to kill while dodging so it’s definitely tricky but not impossible, vorpal weapon needed and a headshot while a melee. way of the warrior means also keeping your distance,since each melee kill increases the range of the super, but it’s also deadly when it dodges now causing a damage aftershock. way of the current, can block a lot of things so most classes, and from testing, chaos reach and teacher are best against it, but don’t aim at the hunter if it’s using it, since it will delete the super Stasis, for hunters best is way of the sharp shooter golden and way of the current arc strider, since he can’t hit you if your using current without risking it become the other team and golden can take it out since it’s stationary warlock super nova is good here Stasis, for warlock, tether and arc strider way of the current, since you block a area for the warlock and it can’t hit you if your blocking since your sending it back at them and golden gun as well, since well it’s head is stationary but warlock super nova is a good option as well here to Stasis, for Titans, tether and most of the subclasses, since it’s short range and it’s lack of damage area unlike the arc Titan As for abilities, they are nerfed so people won’t be using them as often, lighting and flux grenade are your biggest worries

Hunters really aren't the problem right now. There's not really anything they have that's game breaking. Every time I'm in Crucible, the only class based things that annoy me are Titans that spam barricades for literally every engagement, and the entirety of top tree dawn.

[quote]Bungie you ruin crucible.[/quote] They ruined a whole lot, not just crucible. 😂😂😂 It's a broken game since D2 launced. Most of it's issue now arised from a broken game when it launched. They've been fixing it ever since, up to now. Broken! You are correct. It's them, especially the people responsible for it's direction when it came out. They're the ones pulling the strings. The Direction!!! 😂😂😂 Broken! 😂😂😂

Cat ear dance ruins the game