If this is true than I sure hope they also nerf hand canons. 600 rpm autos are the only weapon class that can compete with hand canons. Pulses got a range nerf a while back and scout rifles suck now. 600 autos should be left alone. Just about any hand canon can beat any of the 600rpm autos. The only other option would be Cold Heart or Vigilance Wing. Why does Bungie have a heart on for hand canons? Hand canons have been meta for like 3 years now. Quit nerfing every other weapon class. Not everyone likes using hand canons and shotguns. Otherwise there’s no point in having any other weapons in PvP.
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3 Replieshttps://youtu.be/G9o8hrImI4c Your god and savior proving you wrong.
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2 RepliesYou sound absolutely silly, the amount of skill it takes to aim an auto rifle compared to anything else in the game is not even comparable. And you talk about it being only a hand cannon meta when I recall year one being uriels gift meta? Auto rifles have been better in d2 for longer than hand cannons no doubt. Console is literally just gnawing hungers right now... Not only is its optimal time to kill faster than that of 150 round per minute hand cannons, its time to kill of hitting every single shot to the body is 1.2 seconds, the same amount of time to till for a 150 hand cannon if you hit someone in the body/miss a shot. You’re just terrible at aiming if you think 600 rpm auto rifles dont need changed.
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Bro your statement is full of holes, inaccuracy, and lies. Hand cannons have been meta for 1 year compared to the almost 2 years of auto rifles. There are so many weapons that are easier to use than a hand cannon, actually almost every weapon is a great counter to a hand cannon. Hand cannons ease of use does not exist. You have to hit perfection in order to hit the optimal TTK. Please quit all the talk about you playing comp and trials man, you are really embarrassing yourself. Another embarrassing thing is that you claim that hand cannons are too good, yet you are not even capable of using them efficiently, like at all. You actually have a higher accuracy with auto rifles than you do with a precision weapon being a hand cannon and that is absolute craziness. I understand that the only time you feel you are even close to being a decent play is when you use an auto rifle but just because you feel that way does not mean that they are not an outlier. They truly need to be toned down, they require very little skill.
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2 RepliesNerf 600s their range is ridiculous. Its a easy button just likebmountain top. Both weapons take no real skill to use and are rampant in all forms of crucible on PC and counsel. They make the the game very one sided and boring. All those who are gonna jump on this post are just worried their kd will drop as the have to adjust to aiming. Don't worry you'll figure it out!
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12 RepliesHave you ever played on console? Hand cannons are not used at all, and they are completely unusable, because they have the worst bloom, the worst range, the worst TTK, the worst stability, and you can’t even see your crosshair while firing. Whereas autos are just point and shoot. They are completely overpowered. They are the easiest weapons to use AND the fastest TTK with good range. That’s not okay.
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16 RepliesHand cannon is the most skilled primary you can use. It takes knowledge of range, pacing shots, and landing crits. Autos you just brrrrrrrr in the general direction of someone with a counterbalance mod on and it obliterates. 600 rpm probably needs to be toned just a bit. Autos and spinning up will still be viable.
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1 ReplySide arms. 540 and high impact pulses. Trace rifles.
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600 rpm autos are most definitely not the only weapon class that can counter hand cannons lmao what. On console, using any 600 rpm will obliterate almost any hand cannon, and only won’t if the hand cannon user doesn’t get flinched to the sky and doesn’t experience bloom. The forgiveness in missing a shot with an auto is much more than if you missed a shot with a hand cannon, therefore providing quite a bit of ease of use. Just look at gnawing hunger usage. Enough said. On PC this might be different but yeah only speaking for my experience on console.
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10 RepliesLol have you been killed by the Suros yet? Or any 600rpm?? It’s like walking around with a light machine gun.. they need to GO!
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18 RepliesLet's just nerf all the nerf posts. 90% of these post are from players who just hate a certain type of weapon to be used against them Only 10% are about true broken items.
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3 RepliesWait so the weapon type that has the fastest time to kill at all ranges doesn’t need to be nerfed. Your crazy man.
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3 Replies[quote]If this is true than I sure hope they also nerf hand canons. 600 rpm autos are the only weapon class that can compete with hand canons. Pulses got a range nerf a while back and scout rifles suck now. 600 autos should be left alone. Just about any hand canon can beat any of the 600rpm autos. The only other option would be Cold Heart or Vigilance Wing. Why does Bungie have a heart on for hand canons? Hand canons have been meta for like 3 years now. Quit nerfing every other weapon class. Not everyone likes using hand canons and shotguns. Otherwise there’s no point in having any other weapons in PvP.[/quote] They don’t need to be nerfed but historically that doesn’t really matter they still could be.
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3 RepliesCrayon-Eating idiot