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12/6/2019 6:58:07 PM
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PvP Players Need more Rewards
Crucible is not easy, and sometimes can be very frustrating, BUT we love it. Why? Because it is instant challenge, instant endgame and instant fun. The only place that armor rolls, weapon rolls truly matter.
I don't ask for another Not Forgotten, or a Recluse.
Don't forget that pvp players are the people who keep your game running. Once Raids, and Endgame content is done all casual players leave the game, but WE are spending time inside your Crucible, against bad matchmaking, bad lobby balancing, frustrating lag, network manipulation, cheaters, almost all the toxic aspect of the game is in the PVP. But we are not rewarded yet.
Give us universal ornaments, new armor sets, new rolls of the original D2 crucible guns, some new emblems, shaders, something to show off that we spent time and we are grinding the Crucible and a way to masterwork our armor because the stats in PVP do matter.
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79 RepliesEdited by Wheelaa1: 12/7/2019 10:45:30 PMWhy do people still spout this BS that PvP is keeping D2 alive. It never has, it never will, the figures - even during ToO heydays - have never shown this. Even during PvP focused weeks like IB, it never has more than 30-32% of active guardians playing it at any moment. When there is no IB or other PvP event, it very rarely sees more than 20% of active guardians playing it. And this is keeping the game alive? Just wow, such utter ongoing stupidity. Unsurprising, as who in their right mind would want to play such a pathetic excuse for a PvP in the first place!?!?! But come on people, really... Right now - https://warmind.io/activity - 17%. Rather, PvP needs to be removed. Launch D2 was a disgrace. And that was largely due to balancing the entire game around PvP. D2 has never recovered from this (and regardless I don't think this pathetic dress sim ever will), and with PvP and the inane way Bungo shoehorn it into the game it won't. Edit - just on the 17%. This is the very tail end of a poor season. People are bored of D2, what minimal loot there is has been acquired. It's the lull before, well, the next season of disappointment. My point is, if PvP really was keeping D2 alive, then surely this is the time, the most applicable time there is, for PvP to be clearly showing that it is 'keeping the game alive'. 17%. Yeah... Edit 2 - Lots of people do not seem to realise that until very recently the 'Crucible' figure was actually itself split into QP, Comp, whatever the weekly playlist was, and when applicable IB? So that 17% was actually split into 3 (sometimes 4) separate figures, and typically that would have been 8/8/1. So the whole "17% is a good figure argument, better than many individual PvE modes" is worthless. When you consider D2 as a whole there are 3 very distinct elements to it (aside from dress shopping). PvE, PvPvE and PvP. Split in active players, outside of IB weeks, is PvP 15-20%, PvPvE 5-10%, PvE 70-80%. Nuff said!!!!! Edit 3 - my bad, PvP figure was split more than 3 ways usually. Just looking through some old figures I have, and for example early June this year we had figures for QP / Comp / Private / Rumble / Breakthrough. Edit 4 - To clarify something, because, somewhat unbelieveably, it needs to be clarified. PvE / PvP is a universal distinction. Ask yourselves, what's the difference between a raid and a strike? Or a patrol and a public event? Same gameplay, different rules. Now what's the difference between Clash and Control. I wonder...could it be same gameplay, different rules? Howsoever warmind categorises activities - and as I have said above Crucible used to be split into 5 (I suspect the amalgamation was deliberate...) - this game is just 3 things, PvE, PvP, Gambit.
