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8/27/2019 6:25:40 PM
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Liberal logic: Koch brothers edition

Liberals: "the koch brothers being able to influence government policy with millions of dollars of campaign to super pacs and God knows what else is horrible! They shouldnt even be allowed to do that! Also Liberals: michael Bloomberg and every other billionaire/millionaire giving money to democrats is okay though. That's different. Moral of the story is you arent allowed to give money to republicans. Only democrats. And if democrats didnt have double standards they would have no standards at all.
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  • OP: Everyone that disagrees with me belongs to a hive mind that all support and believe the exact same things. Also OP: It's pretty rude to generalize everyone on the right as racists, conspiracy theorists, and homophobes. Also also OP: Is lettuce.

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    • Moral of my story is that lobbying and party donations should be outlawed, any and all business interests, both past and future, divested. Too many conflicts of interest all across the board. Government is supposed to rule in the interests of all the electorate, not just the rich ones who feed them money. I'd also outlaw attacks on character etc etc. Mudslinging has forced discourse on actual policy onto the backseat and that is hugely -blam!-ing frustrating. Politics should be [i]all[/i] about policy, but right now? Its not. And thats a good sign the system is broken.

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    • [quote]Moral of the story is you arent allowed to give money to republicans. Only democrats. And if democrats didnt have double standards they would have no standards at all.[/quote] Sums up both parties actually

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    • Democrats and Republicans are the same party, cattle.

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    • Edited by Uncanny_Vale: 8/27/2019 8:46:46 PM
      Well this liberal is opposed to rich businessmen and special interest/industry groups exerting undue influence on politics period - no matter what side it is. The Koch brothers are a symptom of a corrupt political system that’s allowed money to dictate policy decisions for decades. Until major campaign finance reform is introduced another rich billionaire is just going to take the Koch brothers place in a system that allows legalized bribery. As for the Koch brothers my main objection to them has always been their war against climate science. They’ve been engaging in a massive misinformation campaign for decades. Look behind most climate deniers and you’ll find a money trail leading back to the Koch brothers. They’ve done enormous damage to public trust in climate science.

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    • Yes, bc two billionaires are honestly and truly concerned w the welfare of average Americans. I tend to think the most likely explanation is the truest. Since becoming involved in politics, the Koch's have seen their fortune increase by several billion dollars. They have also seen rules/regs affecting their business significantly decreased. Something tells me that both these occurrences are far more than mere coincidence.

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    • I always read koch as co[u][/u]ck and it's disorienting

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    • Edited by SexyPiranha: 8/29/2019 4:40:37 AM
      🤨🤔 Weird names.

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    • Edited by JS5218: 8/28/2019 3:23:18 PM
      Instead of donating to politicians the super rich should try to buy the amazon rainforest and save it. Buy the parts of the world that need help and help it. Giving money to politicians is like flushing it down the toilet.

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      • Another day, another strawman/red herring combo on #Offtopic.

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        • Liberal logic is an oxymoron.

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        • Don't forget George Soros

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          • I do not know enough about politics to be here, but I am so. The left believe that not everyone is given an opportunity and wants everyone to be brought down to the same level The right disagrees. Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong. :D

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            • I want ALL of it gone. Our campaign finance system is legalized bribery. There is very little difference between Democrats and Republicans on economic policy. We have a far Right party and a center-Right party. Anything else?

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              • You're confused. The outrage isn't over the spending; it's over what the money is being spent on.

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                • Clearly you've never heard of a straw man fallacy

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                  • How are super pacs moral at all, Democrat or Republican? I fail to see how this is a partisan issue, as you seem to want to frame everything.

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                    • Edited by WILLtheKILLA5: 8/27/2019 10:15:11 PM
                      Leftists: We must stop all the hate Also Leftists: Let's celebrate anyone who we disagree with when they die! *Stays quiet on the clear antisemitism in own party*

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                      • I'm convinced these people you rail against don't even exist or make up such a minority to be pointless. Some of the most popular liberal candidates with actual leftists are Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren who both campaign heavily on over turning citizens united and removing money from politics in its entirety. I've never once been okay with corporations or individuals lobbying anyone in congress. But right now its the only way to stay in power if you yourself are not a billionaire.

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                      • Major L, as always

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                      • I've never wished a man dead, but I have chuckled at a few obituaries...

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                      • And yet it's usually liberals pushing for campaign finance reform.... 🤔🤔🤔 You seem to confuse Democrats with liberals often.

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                        • Businesses shouldn't give any money into politics. It creates a conflict of interest of politicians catering to those businesses rather than the people. Separate business from state just like religion from state.

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                        • Whos koch

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