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Edited by Ultra:
8/15/2019 10:01:47 AM
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He's doing us all a favor! Now I might actually have a choice between other subclasses when I play Warlock.
Get over yourself.
Edit: So many people taking this far too literally. Let me explain a bit here, because I ain't about to reply to everyone.
I can only comment on the game we currently have. Sure if there were some faster bosses that didn't just stand still then yeah, things might be different. Currently WoR combined with Luna Factions is all that is needed. Using anything else in PVE feels less effective in both a solo and team sense.
Yeah, I can use other subclasses... I would feel much better about using them if Well wasn't so good in every way. Problem is, Well covers everything. It is just as much of a boss DPS super as it is a support super. Also, it has a super secret hidden perk that automatically gets your team to stick together.
Things I would like to see done to Well include (not everything all at once obviously):
- Adjust Well focused exotics
- Adjust how instant reloads works so it isn't perfect, maybe primary kinetic weapons only
- Remove the damage buff Well gives and make it for healing only - maybe give it a firerate buff instead of damage increase, or make grenade energy recharge in like 2 seconds for anyone standing in it (that would be fun)
- Give it some kind of outward/spiraling damage effect instead of one of its current traits that kills some enemies when they try to enter
- Buff regular Nova Bomb plz, blast radius/cast speed/tankiness while casting increase
- Make Storm Trance a little less weird to use
- Kamehameha super sensitivity increase on console because it's like 10x as effective on PC being able to 180 like a spaz.
Now stop fricken complaining because Well is OP currently. Doesn't matter if its because bosses are dumb. WELL IS STILL TOO GOOD.
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There's always a choice.. You choosing to only use well is on you .. If bungie made raid bosses that moved and pushed us out of spots this wouldn't be an issue where well is constantly used
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I can only comment on the game we currently have man. Sure if there were some faster bosses that didn't just stand still then yeah, you're right. Currently WoR combined with Luna Factions is all that is needed. Using anything else in PVE feels less effective in both a solo and team sense. Yeah, I can use other subclasses... I would feel much better about using them if Well wasn't so good in every way. Problem is, Well covers everything. It is just as much of a boss DPS super as it is a support super. It should JUST be a support super. Perhaps it's just Luna Factions that need a look at. No reloading as well is something that should go or be changed.
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U already have a choice. Ur game, ur console, ur subclasses, so u chose ur own super which ever 1 u want. No 1s forcing u to pick well.
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Clearly you've never completed a raid
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Who gives a -blam!-. Players did have wells in D1 when doing raids. Like I said u can complete raids without wells. Ur choice
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Someone with brain cells on Bungie.net?
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You mean you can’t wait to be dead weight in a raid. Why run warlock when you can just run celestial nighthawk? Lol
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Doing us a favor, I bet my ass he ruins shadowkeep with his remarks on the game. There are more players like us in the community than like him. Piss off
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[quote]He's doing us all a favor! Now I might actually have a choice between other subclasses when I play Warlock. Get over yourself.[/quote] Nobody is forcing you to use well
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Yeah actually everyone on LFG forces Warlocks to use well on Bosses else you get kicked.
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[quote]Yeah actually everyone on LFG forces Warlocks to use well on Bosses else you get kicked.[/quote] That's been there since Destiny. In TTK you had to run a bubble for titan, Hunter tether, and a Warlock Phoenix. After a while you didn't need a warlock at all as changes were made to that raid, but Titan was force to use bubble..
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Edited by Ubisuccle: 8/14/2019 2:53:05 PMIf you want to get anything done in a raid thats the loadout you have to choose. Nova and chaos reach are nigh useless against raid bosses and ads can be melted with recluse so theres no point to storm caller, nova warp or dawn blade. So optimal boss damage loadout is well, lunafaction, a 150 rmp nade launcher with spike nades, or mountain top and anarchy. Either of these two weapon sets can kill any raid boss with ease so theres no reason to use something else over what i just stated.
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I mean I don’t know who forced you to do anything in d2. I personally enjoy the empowering rift cataclysm nova bomb combo for raids
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[quote]I might actually have a choice between other subclasses when I play Warlock[/quote] Dude, are you okay? Do I need to call the cops? I didn't know there was a trained special forces sniper aiming at you every time you log onto destiny making sure you don't switch off WoR. Blink twice if you need help.
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blink blink blink code red shits fkd
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WOR being nerfed won’t magically make the other supers viable you idiot.
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😂😂😂😂 💯
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[quote]WOR being nerfed won’t magically make the other supers viable you idiot.[/quote]
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You’ve always had a choice.
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This ain't philosophy class. The majority of people will always choose their most effective option, which is Well by a long mile.
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Majority of players won’t touch a tier 3 Reckoning, with it.
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Maybe if they didn’t have enemies that just about 1 shot you no matter what (looking at you wire rifle vandals) then WoR wouldn’t be needed as a crutch. The amount of times you play Gambit (normal not prime) and the amount of red bars that can destroy your health, the super annoying taken that spawn at the bank teleporting all around the place taking 5 minutes to chase down and kill before the invader comes over. Let’s not even get started on the Ogres and any other boss with a knock back. They hit so hard yet baby sit the portal so it’s either die to a loss or die trying to rush that invade portal. In the end Survival usually requires a Well for most that are tired of being shit on by the developers damage buff to enemies. If you’re going to look and blame anyone. Blame Bungie for making the enemies so overpowered that Well is one of the only supers to counteract and make the game stable. I don’t enjoy wiping constantly on Reckoning because my teammates can’t control ads, so instead of failing, throw on a Well and pray. It only takes the damage away, knock back still wipes the team. Raids, mostly have to carry, bring a Well for that inexperienced person that claims they know the raid encounters with no clears, but watched YouTube videos so they think it’s a breeze. The game problem is simply - Bungie If they made the enemies to where they wouldn’t force you to use a Well lock in order to survive, there wouldn’t be a need for them. But since (whenever I don’t use a warlock) I join games and no one knows how to do anything team oriented I get screwed without one.
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[quote]This ain't philosophy class. The majority of people will always choose their most effective option, which is Well by a long mile.[/quote]
