Just because they're in the NFL; those quarterbacks think they know something like they're the only ones playing football in the world. *Scoffs*

Trust me when I say anyone who plays an hour a day of crucible knows more about balancing crucible than bungie. These sweats players have been playing crucible in high skill levels for hundreds of hours, they know what theyre talking about.

The real problem with Balance of weapons is the latency behind the game causing rng inconsistant weapon damage. Look at it this way. Let's take a current shotgun. A 1v1. Me vs a player much worse than me. A player with a .4 kd. So I run up to him, and from 10 ft out shotgun him with one shot while he shoots me with an auto for about 2 seconds. He's dead, I still have half health, even though he hit all his shots. A case could be made shotguns are op from that situation and should receiver some sort of nerf to balance with auto damage. Next round, we both do the exact same thing, only this time he misses half his bullets. So I am able to close more distance and and shoot him from 2 ft away. This time my shotgun only takes away half his shield? He then Melees me once and I die. So what do we see. In the second scenario, the other player played even worse, and came out on top. This situation could be seen as shotguns need some sort of buff as being ineffective at almost point blank is a huge mistake. That's why this game is impossible for the community to have a major discussion without hate. Is because people experience it differently. Not just different opinions but actually see different things. For me, whenever I watch a streamer I'm in awe of how horrible the enemies are. I watch them run around 3 enemies not getting shot. Just thinking to myself, if that was me, he would have shot me. He would have meleed me. He would not have just stared at me while I'm almost dead. I don't know what's going on in this game. But there are far too many coincidences for me to play it off as anything one wrong thing. There's something very bad in this game and I can't figure it out. For example. Blade to me, is op. People say it's so easy to kill them. Shotgun melee. Well I'm here to say I'm a great player, not in my stats, but I'm good, not great. My shotgun melee has been attempted on blades probably over 1000 times, and has worked I think twice, which was recently. I was never able to kill them. But then others swear it's so easy doing exactly what I can't do. It's not skill. I aim, it hits. I melee. It hits. He still isn't even close to dead. Or this. I'm a striker. I've been using a striker for about 8 months or so. Once the striker was sort of nerfed, I can't tell you how many times, I have been killed midnight into my super by 1 shotgun blast while I have full health. It became about a 50 50 shot as to whether my super would land without being killed by 1 bullet. At the same time, out of the hundreds of times I tried to kill a flying striker, I have not to this day killed even 1. Not 1. And I'm counting hundreds as the amount of times I have point blank shot the flying titan, not missed, and it doesn't count my bullet. If it does, he still has half his red bar. How is it that it's so easy for a .4 to shotgun me mid super with striker while I have full health. Yet it is impossible for me to do the same to any other striker even with only a sliver of health left. This game is -blam!-ed. And everyone thinks differently mostly because they are not seeing the same shit as others. For me, this forum, the elites, who are not polite, will tell you I suck. I suck so bad. And I'm not here to argue that, even if I don't agree with it. But let's take jug, shadestep, shoulder charge. These have been hot button topics over the past 6 months or so. Personally I have never had a problem facing them. I know how to beat them. And it works pretty easily for me. While I watched 1.8s and 2.0 say they couldn't figure out how to beat it. So either I'm better than them, doubtful, or there's something weird going on. Because when I explain how I beat them, they tell me it doesn't work for them. Bungie. Wtf did you do. Tell me

Are you dumb? List a single thing coming Tuesday inspired by sweats.

Lol of course you don't have your stats linked, classic

What's funny is the people that try to make this game competitive when it's not A game with p2p coding cannot be competitive today

Actually its entitled children, like yourself, who have a chip on their shoulder the size of a crater.

if the devs never listened to the community and balanced the game normally then pvp would be fine

Hope this is a joke, they don't, that's the issue. Good pvp players SHOULD have input, they don't.

Games have a business side that "sweats" have nothing to do with. Unless you're a "sweat" AND good at making money, but I highly doubt it.

[quote]That's the line these so called elite players use to justify why something shouldn't be changed..Some made up community of 10 wannabe competitive players, lol..Bungie if you are listening, please tell these "elites " that think they know more about your game then you, to buy 10 million copies because they truly think u should focus Balance patches around their input.[/quote] None of the balances made for Tuesday were inspired by "sweats" lol. When's the last you heard a sweat complaining about Landfall post-first nerf?? Pretty sure sweats don't want hungering blade nerfed.