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Edited by jeff_skier:
6/28/2016 6:51:09 AM
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Shoulder charge nerf when?
As title said.
EDIT: Comments are a huge mess. Basically all insults directed at me. Would appreciate if people stopped commenting because I'm tired of the notifications. Can I also add that the PvP community is actually the most toxic community I have ever met on the internet. Thanks, have a nice day.
EDIT 2: People have suggested that I make a suggestion to how shoulder charge may be fixed. Off the top of my head I an think of 2.
1. Give shoulder charge a cooldown like the regular melee and grenade abilities. Once every 50 seconds or so (depending on your strength).
2. May be too much but the only way to really find out is to test it: Shoulder charge will only one shot low armour players. Players with high armour will survive the hit, with very minimal health.
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3 RepliesShoulder Charge is too easily dealt with by a Shotgun or TLW and it already has a cooldown. Possible solutions may be: 1) when melee charge is full, Shoulder Charge deals 100% damage. When melee charge is empty, it deals 75%. Basically more than a typical melee, but not a one hit kill. 2) when Lift (double jump) is activated, you are taken out of Shoulder Charge. The concept of shoulder charge is that you get a boost in momentum by propelling using your feet. Activation while being propelled by a jet pack doesn't make sense.
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2 RepliesAnyone who complains about shoulder charge is a ____________. Fill in the blank.
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Stop, just seriously stop, enough with this crying nerf shit, watch your radar, use something with third eye so you can always see your radar if shoulder charge is that much of a problem for you.. Take your time and learn how to counter shit that kills you instead of crying out for nerfs, it's seriously destroying this game!!
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Shoulder charge should hurt 100% if ur melee charge is up all the way. But if it's not then it should hurt like around 75% of ur health.
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take a knee! [spoiler]stay out the shoulder-charge lanes[/spoiler]
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High armor guardians already tank a shoulder charge
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2 RepliesDude I routinely get wrecked by a shotgun while attempting a shoulder charge. That or an energy drain melee from approximately 100 yards away. The point of the game is to kill each other. You're gonna kill some people and they're gonna kill you. It's not a big deal. All kinds of shit in pvp is wonky anyway. Like how should post mortem melee kills be possible? And yet they occur. You may find you enjoy pvp more if you don't take it so seriously.
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Lol wow
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1 ReplyNo need for a nerf Shoulder Charge. It can be avoided and countered quite easily. I'll give you some tips on how to avoid them. Now, I do see you said there is nothing you can do about it when they come around corners or behind you. - Watch your radar, A LOT. - Listen to hear if they're coming. With a headset, it's actually pretty easy to hear with the wind sound effect, especially the SC itself. Usually it's used to skate around so in the beginning of the match you'll definitely hear it so keep a good eye out, you know it's coming. - Use a shotgun, or use a sniper to get that crispy headshot on them and make them think twice about coming for you again like that. If you're killed from Shoulder Charge from any other angle then besides in front of you, then you weren't keeping a good enough eye out or just wasn't listening. A Hunter can definitely sneak up on you and do the same thing with Back Stab and luckily enough the game is so broken you have a good chance of doing it from any angle thanks to that wonderful lag you might encounter from game to game. As for a Warlock, pfft, the range on the melee itself is by far the longest melee in the game, have you heard of a Thunderstike? Yeah, one of those will **** your day up as well. I play all three characters and all nine subclasses. Is everything well balanced right now? I wouldn't say so, but that's another topic and nothing is wrong with SC and there's a reason why they've barely messed with it. Each class has its own strong point and purpose.
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2 RepliesYou are traaaaaaaaaaaaaassshhhhhhh if you think shoulder charge needs to be nerfed. I'm not even a titan player and I would hate to see it be nerfed. How can you be so bad as to let a titan run at you and shoulder charge you? You can melt them with an auto rifle, TLW easily kills them, a shotgun, sniper at distance, fusion rifle, so many things. If anyone thinks shoulder charge needs to even be adjusted, you're just as bad or probably even worse than those who think the Gunslinger nerf was justifiable (tripmines should 1 hit kill but not stick to players, throwing knives didn't need to be touched)
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1 ReplyGet gud scrub! It's been in the game forever. It's easy to combat and avoid idiot.
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If you are going to camp with a sniper, or leave yourself vulnerable with no defense plan, then you are going to die. Whether it be by shoulder charge, or by a shotgun. Titans carry guns that are 1 shot kills too, not just melees. Hunters act like the world has completely changed. Hunters are still as deadly as ever. (At least good players who are hunters) A hunter can outswing a melee of any other class. And that melee, even uncharged, is typically a 1 shot kill. Even if 2 shots are necessary, the hunter has the melee speed to do it and get the kill. When Titans can shadestep, blink jump, and go invisible, then we can talk about who has the advantage. You are trying to take away the only thing the striker has to stay on par with the hand to hand combat abilities of hunters and warlocks. Try playing defender titan, and melee only for a whole match. Then, in comparison, do the same with any class from the hunter. See which one does better. A Striker titan without a deadly melee, is a defender... a neutral, an ad. Now, stop being biased and play a titan, and see for yourself the skill that is required to actually get a kill with the SC.
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12 RepliesIf you let a Titan sprint directly into your face, you deserve to die. No excuses. No way around it. You have shotguns, a radar, and ways to communicate to your team that an enemy player is sprinting wrecklessly around the map. Shoulder charge is not the problem. YOU are the problem.
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Buff other stuff instead of nerf SC. Nuff said.
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6 RepliesYou know what stops a shoulder charge? Every single shotgun in the game... Stop crying.
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1 ReplySomeone call the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaambulance
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Reading comments like. BTW OP you are an idiot and shoulder charge isn't op
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21 RepliesI main a hunter and completely disagree with this. If I let a Titan run full speed at me without having any defensive maneuvers to use while he's running then it's my own fault he kills me
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4 RepliesEdited by Chōgekiha: 6/30/2016 1:13:23 PMThe high armor thing already exists. Warlocks survive with ram or the matching subclass dr chestpiece Titans can survive with unstoppable. The cooldown thing already also exists. Not only that but it has an exponential cooldown per consecutive use. The only reason why you seem to get constantly one shotted is because between consecutive uses the titan may die or stop to grab ammo crates. Because of this the cooldown timer wears off and he can use it again. Look on youtube there are videos on this. Im not trying to attack you in any way. I just figured i would throw my 2 cents in. Firebreak order may dispise other titans but we see how bad a nerf can effect a subclass. #proudhammerbro
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SC is balanced. Everything else is shit
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Never!
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You are taking knee to the face from a titan with the force of a small combat truck. So no it shouldn't be more then one shot to kill someone with it.
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I agree. -blam!- titans run around the map with shotguns and run with shoulder charge. Plebs. Titans turning corners and shoulder charging. Titans coming in smal rooms and 1 shotting you. Titan is scrub class. Get good kids. Panic supers hahah.
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It doesn't bother me that it's a ohk other than the fact the other classes should get a ohk as well. The one thing I would like to see changed about it is the ability to take cover, sprint into a object, round a corner and instantly trigger it. Bungie is all about things working as "intended" and I doubt this was intended. It was meant to be used after picking up a head of steam not from sprinting into a wall.
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My plan c was enjoying shoulder charging titans yesterday
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1 ReplyGrow up and stop crying when?
